Totally agree.
Also, Trading out Kelly next year might be used to get in another player who can play straight and not skinny kids who might not make it.
Got a feeling you guys will keep topping up.
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Also, Trading out Kelly next year might be used to get in another player who can play straight and not skinny kids who might not make it.
Got a feeling you guys will keep topping up.
If Stephen wells thought we could pick up two elite guns with pick 20 and 22 don’t you think he would have accepted the deal??
It is becoming quite obvious from the way things have panned out that the recruiters don’t rate the depth of this draft at all. The top ten or so seem to be having clubs sprawling over them, then into the 20’s nobody seems to rate what will be available.
In a draft like 01 I am quite positive wells would have accepted picks 20/22 and happily traded Tim.
I think what happened is a clear evaluation of those picks in this draft and what the general consensus is on them, which is average
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Let him go into the draft and Kelly then says 'I will not play for anyone but West Coast and I mean it!'
No other club will take him (except possibly Freo coz they are jerks)
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I reckon if Gaz had have announced his retirement Wells would have done it. Your club is gearing up for one last crack while Gaz is still there IMO (surely it's his last season)
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Nah, I see Beams similarly, as he could have gone to a lot of other clubs if they wanted him (not sure if they did).
As for Hogan, did WCE have a stated interest in/feasible offer for him, and did Hogan explicitly say "I won't play for the Eagles"? I don't think so. If I'm wrong let me know though.
It's one thing to elect a club, it's another to say "aww I really wanna go home...please do me this favour, but I won't play for the one other team in the state."
Doubt it.
How many clubs do you think would trade their runner up in the BF who is 24 years old for anything less than premiums??
He is rated very high down at geelong. Higher than what west coast rate him.
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You realise that's draft tampering right? The AFL banned Brett Chalmers from playing for Collingwood for 3 years for doing exactly that. Literally called every club ahead of Collingwood in the draft and said he wouldn't play for them. Good luck with that
What if his manger said it instead?
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Victorians have 10 teams they could go to when they say "aww I realy wanna go home" but they always nominate a club and get there 99.9% of the time. It's really no different
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Just highlights once again the massive double standard that exists in the league
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What was to stop Geelong picking up one, or even two, ready made mids in the draft?One mature age recruit and one kid sets you up for the present and the future. Seems a strange call to me, but maybe there is a statement being made that they deem more important.
I have no horse in this discussion, just interest as an ex WAFL player.
What happens if Kelly's form falls off next season ( second year blues ) ?.
His value is lessened and the Eagles might be lacklustre about chasing him. Could be more interesting times ahead.
Player managers do a lot of damage at times, need to play their cards closer to their chests.
What happens if Kelly's form falls off next season ( second year blues ) ?.
His value is lessened and the Eagles might be lacklustre about chasing him. Could be more interesting times ahead.
Player managers do a lot of damage at times, need to play their cards closer to their chests.
There is no double standard.
Kelly said he wanted to go home and geelong tried to make that happen with Fremantle and even came to an agreement which kelly rejected.
Kelly’s preference of clubs is not a concern or issue for geelong. There is no reason it should come into the frame as a reason for us to take Unders. We tried to deal with west coast like asked, which we didn’t even have to, but we did out of respect.
Geelong did everything within reason and merit.
West coast are under the logic that because he picked a club, geelong just needs to accept whatever west coast feels is the right value to send to geelong. It doesn’t work like that.
If it’s family reasons, then he would have accepted Fremantle as a viable choice.
Since this isn’t the case, geelong were in no situation where trading a player for less than what they valued him as to a club just because he feels like playing for them was some sort of factor in the decision making.
The club was very logical respectable and admirable in the process.
Everyone on the geelong board is thrilled with how we went about it and so am I.
The worst thing kelly could have done was eliminate Fremantle publicly while saying I need to go home for compassionate grounds.
Made an absolute fool of himself.
That very rarely happens, no manager would accept that as a conclusion. If Kelly still wants to only play for the eagles at the end of next season, a deal will be worked on that satisfies both parties.
Look at Lever last year; out of contract and still a good deal was done. Regardless of what us supporters blather about, clubs generally work things out.
Pretty sure the AFL would consider that draft tampering under the rules.
Could very well have a case if things went down like that.
There is obviously a good reason we don’t see it happen and every club picks up star guns for draft pick 50.
Correct, very much doubt TK walks to the draft. A deal will be done. It doesn't sound like there is any bad blood between the clubs, both professional and have an understanding of where each other is coming from, as you'd expect.
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Sam a flog too?
Sam a flog too?
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I think it's well established that Sam Mitchell is a flog, especially after he mimicked injecting drugs at those poor Essendon boys.
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we ran the Eagles ...
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there would have been zero chance we would've let Tim Kelly go back to Geelong. The inaction could cost a premiership defence. Yes, we know there wasn't much draft pick scope, but when a player of this calibre presents himself on a platter, you don't push the platter back.
we ran the Eagles ...
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there would have been zero chance we would've let Tim Kelly go back to Geelong. The inaction could cost a premiership defence. Yes, we know there wasn't much draft pick scope, but when a player of this calibre presents himself on a platter, you don't push the platter back.
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Can't believe that grub Barrett is the voice of reason here.
Eagles have screwed the pooch over a 12 pick downgrade in a future draft.
Rather not take the risk. If we finish 6th in 2019 as an example it would be pick 12 next year plus picks 20 and 22 for Kelly
We have a premiership midfield with Nic Nat and Gaff to come back into it. No other team can boast that level of talent coming into their midfield next year.
If Nic Nat plays next season I’ll be amazed.
We can only pray.
