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News Tim Kelly traded to West Coast - ***Opposition fans read the OP***
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He has been dealing with tags from the beginning, including the WAFL.
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If you can find me a Geelong game where he dominated whilst being tagged I'll go heave.
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Theres a couple of articles about TK on thewest.com.au for those interested.
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True history of the Kelly gang
Kelly’s remarkable football journey has taken him from Melville Reserve to football-mad Geelong and now delivered him home into the loving embrace of his extended family.
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Tim Kelly’s manager doesn’t charge him a cent
The Sunday Times can confirm Kelly’s manager Anthony Van Der Wielen is operating in a voluntary capacity.
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Garbage deal for us. Couple of average picks in a weak draft which probably won't yield much. Ablett deal all over again. Those compo picks were supposed to contribute to our "transition" just as these picks are supposed to help facilitate a new grand rebuild of the club. We used those Ablett picks on Smedts and Caddy, so not too confident this will do much more for us.
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im really really shocked to see you so negative and downbeat about the result.
2017 Pick 24 -> 14, 24, 27 and 2020 Rd 1.
Absolutely floored.
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Ablett 2001 pick 40 -> two 1st RD compo picks. That was a win too, right?
But the ROI was great. Late pick in 2001 becomes two firsts. Can't scoff at that, right?
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Agreed. At times he did. Went all right in the prelim though.
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Apples and oranges.
Ablett was an AFL mandated compensation that was horrendously undervauled and you know it - we had zero say in that. IT was a horrendous loss. But I Cant beleive you are simple enough to compare the 2.
This is a trade of an OOC player that was 2 x Rd 2 picks 12 months ago (rightly rejected) and has netted much more now.
Of course, 3 x Top 5 picks for TK would have been great.
How would you have gotten them?
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Just to be clear, I am poking fun at the fact that people keep contending we did well because we turned pick 24 into some better picks years later, as if that at all means anything. Regardless of the details, we did that in the Ablett deal too, but few Geelong supporters would have accepted any picks willingly for Ablett at the time. It's not my point to compare quality of the deals; it's that the whole "Wow, good for us. We made pick 24 into picks x, y, z" comments I keep hearing are silly, and it's now how things work. When you have a quality player, your job is to not make up what they cost at the trade table; it's to hold on or maximize value. Geelong didn't really do that bu not getting a single top 10 pick, decent player, etc. Improving on draft position from two years ago means absolutely, entirely nothing.
Spot on - and i reckon in a real gun side - he would play half forward - he wouldnt play midfield
In that 4 minute highlight package which is on the internet - of his 2 seasons with the Cats - they havent got his best goal - and that was the one against the Suns - in Qld - that was a brilliant crumbing goal off the pack - mercurial is the word to describe that bit of play - and thats what he would be capable of - if he was played permanently forward
Ive got no problem with him leaving given the circumstances - Geel got well compensated - and Kelly is a likeable person
But i think it is a huge risk re his football career - i mean Eagles supporters think Kelly is the missing part of the jigsaw - and they are basically saying that with Kelly they will be playing Rich in next years GF . The thing about Kelly - is he isnt quick - and has struggled with the hard tag - there will be enormous pressure on him next year - the money they are paying - and their supporter expectations of him - they are expecting huge things from him - the missing piece to get the flag
Best analogy i can give ( in my opinion ) is they have recruited a Brett Heady type to go into their midfield . Heady would go into the Eagles midfield now and again - most notably the 92 GF - where he got thown in their - and played very well against Paul Couch . However Headys best position by far was around the goals - because he was clever and super dangerous around the goals - and that is Tim Kelly to a tee . In a super strong team Kelly would be played as a permanent forward - with only the occasional run on the ball
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Theres a couple of articles about TK on thewest.com.au for those interested.
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True history of the Kelly gang
Kelly’s remarkable football journey has taken him from Melville Reserve to football-mad Geelong and now delivered him home into the loving embrace of his extended family.
Tim Kelly’s manager doesn’t charge him a cent
The Sunday Times can confirm Kelly’s manager Anthony Van Der Wielen is operating in a voluntary capacity.
Well Tim you certainly get what you pay for don't you!!!
Any half decent manager would have got it done last year. I suppose we should be thanking him.
[cough] Paul Manafort [cough]
It’s too early to say. It could be. But we aren’t entitled to win these trades just because we are the traders and we were never going to keep TK. We could get that top 10 or we could end up with two Clarke quality picks. But Wells has his eye on a particular player. Probably won’t get them but who knows. A week to go or on draft night.
The Ablett compo lead to Caddy who lead to Parfitt. A win over Caddy who was a Balme lead dud. But for Ablett we didn’t get pick 1-3 which we should have. We gave them a Brownlow medallist for gods sake.
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Tim’s manager doesn’t get paid? So what’s in it for him?Theres a couple of articles about TK on thewest.com.au for those interested.
You need a subscription, unless theres a trick to get around the paywall
True history of the Kelly gang
Kelly’s remarkable football journey has taken him from Melville Reserve to football-mad Geelong and now delivered him home into the loving embrace of his extended family.
Tim Kelly’s manager doesn’t charge him a cent
The Sunday Times can confirm Kelly’s manager Anthony Van Der Wielen is operating in a voluntary capacity.
Kick back from west coast to get him there?
Much rather have Caddy than Parfitt. Caddy without question the better player. That was an awful trade. Helped Richmond on their way to a flag in 2017 for absolutely no reason, given he was contracted.
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Disagree. Parfitt already shows more now than Caddy ever did. He was very fortunate to even be in their 17 flag team; probably their bottom 3. He is an opportunist at best.
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