Uncontracted Tim Kelly

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According to the AFL in 2017 there were:

$500-600k: 53 players
$600-700k: 34
$700-800k: 23
$800k+: 25

There's fewer big money deals than people think. $500-600k looks about right to me. That places Kelly inside the top 15% comp wide so in the top 6 or 7 at any club. We'd have a bunch of guys in the $300-600k range eating up our cap. $12.4m doesn't go that far.

But yeah if Geelong think he's worth $800k whack it on the table.
 

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Top 5 pick now?

F-me. Although you guys have at least given up on whole no1 pick thing.

Except our first this year was offered. But keep inventing what was actually offered.
You havent listened. Your poster keeps telling us we were offered the equivalent of pick 2 which is irrelevant as no one would ever trade 3 R2s for pick 10 let alone pick 2 regardless of the points values.

You should have actually read my post that you were responding to.
 
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You havent listened. Your poster keeps telling us we were offered the equivalent of pick 2 which is irrelevant as no one would ever trade 3 R2s for pick 10 let alone pick 2 regardless of the points values.

You should have actually read my post that you were responding to.
He was stating a fact. Points wise, which is based on stats, he is accurate. Now if people would do that trade, other things go into that such as no. Of spots available, perceived backlash etc. but stats wise, he is accurate.

Odds are that with 3xearly 20s picks, you are likely to hit with one very good player. That is not unreasonable. I get that a bird in one hand and all that but hey, Geelong takes players too from other clubs.

However, we aren’t exchanging picks between each other. We are trading a player for picks. So who cares. We also offered our first. Which you were about to accept. In the end you didn’t which is also admirable and I hope my club is also brave enough to do that at some stage. So I do get it.
 

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He was stating a fact. Points wise, which is based on stats, he is accurate. Now if people would do that trade, other things go into that such as no. Of spots available, perceived backlash etc. but stats wise, he is accurate.

Odds are that with 3xearly 20s picks, you are likely to hit with one very good player. That is not unreasonable. I get that a bird in one hand and all that but hey, Geelong takes players too from other clubs.

However, we aren’t exchanging picks between each other. We are trading a player for picks. So who cares. We also offered our first. Which you were about to accept. In the end you didn’t which is also admirable and I hope my club is also brave enough to do that at some stage. So I do get it.
I dont think WCEs offer was awful and i take your point. But statistically with a top 10 pick you are way more likely to get an a grader and a 200 gamer than in R2 which is why clubs dont trade top 5 picks for multiple mid range picks and why they only trade the really high picks for perceived A graders. Geelong probably felt they were more chance of replacing Kelly adequately with one high pick than 3 R2s and they were also getting an A grader on rookie wages in a year they are pushing for a flag. So they decided to keep him.

My point was more how hard is it to say 'we recognise no club would find 3 R2s as valuable as a top 10 pick but it was the best we could/would do' rather than trying to spin some crap that you offered a top 10 or even a top 5 pick (as your other poster was suggesting with pick 2). That is politician level spin as we were never offered that. Thats why i was annoyed with him (not you)because its disingenuous to say we knocked back something (a top 5 pick) that we were never offered and WCE didnt have the ability to offer even if they wanted to.
 

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Think he is close, certainly performing as one anyway. Don’t think we will pay him that about 600k will be around the mark.
Starts on a $600k base plus incentives. These being B&F finish. Number of games potentially. Finals played and a flag.

A five year deal with scope to back end and ramp up post Kennedy (33), Hurn(33), Shuey(29), Jetta (30) and Naitanui(29) retirements.

Marketing role $$ is never a problem either.
 

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