Uncontracted Tim Kelly

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Geelong needs Kelly more than Eagles does, will be a tough trade.

Post selwood/ablett, geelong has just enough depth with a starting setup with Danger-Kelly-Constable/Parfitt, losing Kelly will hurt.

Tim would be top 2 midfielder at eagles too but their midfield is perfectly fine.

Getting Kelly is like us getting Beams, costly and redundant trade which will only hamper the growth of the next generation.
Kelly and Beams is one of the best comparisons I have heard... talent is obvious and no one wants to lose talent.
Id say your esimation of the Geelong setup is fair as well. Id say Brisbane and Geelong are slightly different stages but still Brisbane brought in a ready made replacement. Geelong are slight less endowed with the new group of mids than Brisbane as.. as you say it will hurt.. but its not like there is a choice. OOC players can go.
Its probably why Kelly would fit Freo better if he wanted to go there.. thats up to whether they want him and they would appeal to him. Their form so far this year will not hurt.
 

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Geelong would be silly not to ask about brander. A good young prospect in a position that we are short on that west coast seem to have covered in the short term. I would even be asking about waterman. West coast have waterman allen and darling all a similar type fighting over positions
It is interesting that Brander has been named in the 26 this week to play Geelong.. if he plays it will have elements of showing off a potential option ...
Without knowing WCoast intimately ..id say the only way they would consider letting him go is if the form of Allen etc is good enough to give them confidence about heir future is covered. Brander seem to be a long term play to have coverage for KPF..he is contracted for another couple.
 
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It is interesting that Brander has been named in the 26 this week to play Geelong.. if he plays it will have elements of showing off a potential option ...
Without knowing WCoast intimately ..id say the only way they would consider letting him go is if the form of Allen etc is good enough to give them confidence about heir future is covered. Brander seem to be a long term play to have coverage for KPF..he is contracted for another couple.
I look at West Coasts lost and the players in there bottom few players and players just outside the 22 include jake waterman, Liam Duggan, Daniel venebles, jake petrucelle, Josh Gotham, Mathew Allen, Cole . You would suspect that a first round pick and one of the above players would be offered from west coast.
 

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Then why do you keep bringing him up? We don’t want to lose him, you don’t want him and yet he is still topic of conversation.

Deep down you do want him. That’s really it. :)
Brander would obviously appeal to clubs that have no strong candidates to be their future KPP for them , its only value that would have to be agreed on and in that its a difficult discussion.

for what its worth... The last time I saw highlights of Brander he looked like he was developing nicely.. but as with most players who are in that build stage their value goes backwards a bit till they start playing on the big stage. Its why most clubs would not consider trading a development type player early on.. I'm sure WC would have drafted him with a 3-4 year time line min. The longer it goes in system , play or not ..the more any players value drafts from draft value to their AFL performance value. It shows the WC have been clever getting him to sign an extended contract to give them coverage for an extra period.. cause if he was OCC without much playing ..his value would have dropped from where he was drafted.
 

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I look at West Coasts lost and the players in there bottom few players and players just outside the 22 include jake waterman, Liam Duggan, Daniel venebles, jake petrucelle, Josh Gotham, Mathew Allen, Cole . You would suspect that a first round pick and one of the above players would be offered from west coast.
Maybe.. any trade need player approval..
 

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This weeks rising star nominee.

Picked up with one of those "crappy 2nd round picks". Pick 38 no less.


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https://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2017-11-25/recruiters-nailed-it

You already know about another crappy 2nd rounder we picked up in that draft pick 26.

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And IMO the one who will end up the pick of the 2017 draft for the Eagles the U18 Lark Medalist pick 21.

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So much for crappy 2nd rounders!!!
 
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Geelong needs Kelly more than Eagles does, will be a tough trade.

Post selwood/ablett, geelong has just enough depth with a starting setup with Danger-Kelly-Constable/Parfitt, losing Kelly will hurt.

Tim would be top 2 midfielder at eagles too but their midfield is perfectly fine.

Getting Kelly is like us getting Beams, costly and redundant trade which will only hamper the growth of the next generation.
Agree what the Pies paid for Beams with the midfield they already had wasnt a real need.

In exchange for Beams and Pick No. 41 and 44, the Lions receive Pick No. 18, 56 and a future first-round pick from the Magpies.

Feb 1990 DOB so turning 30 and now a player like Seir cant get a game.

Kelly however is turning 25 and if he ends up at the Eagles we should see Kelly in the centre square, Gaff back to a wing and Masten either let go or playing in the WAFL on a 1 yr deal as a depth player.
 
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If geelong think freo will be better to deal with than the eagles they have rocks in their heads . If freo have a pick in the top 8 they wont use it on kelly . They have become very ruthless at the trade table
Not really seeing it.

We traded a bit recently. We probably took unders for Wilson in 2017, but there were circumstances and in the end Wilson was looked after by both clubs.

We got Fair value for Lobb I think.
 
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I look at West Coasts lost and the players in there bottom few players and players just outside the 22 include jake waterman, Liam Duggan, Daniel venebles, jake petrucelle, Josh Gotham, Mathew Allen, Cole . You would suspect that a first round pick and one of the above players would be offered from west coast.
Josh Gotham sounds so much more badass!
 

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This weeks rising star nominee.

Picked up with one of those "crappy 2nd round picks". Pick 38 no less.


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https://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2017-11-25/recruiters-nailed-it

You already know about another crappy 2nd rounder we picked up in that draft pick 26.

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And IMO the one who will end up the pick of the 2017 draft for the Eagles the U18 Lark Medalist pick 21.

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So much for crappy 2nd rounders!!!
Only one we want is Allen. The rest are pretty average.
 
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