Tim Paine caught in sexting scandal, resigns as Test Captain
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So why were dale steyn philander and morkel able to escape being labelled as cheats?
Their team has been caught multiple times cheating so if our bowlers surely knew then steyn surely knew yet unlike with our quicks its never even mentioned that steyn and others benefited and must be complicit from faf's multiple attempts to cheat.
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The thing with sportspeople is it's all played out in public, the media and social media descend like locusts, judging, condemning, demanding "justice" and certain "punishments" to be imposed, because - community standards!!
No mention of forgive and forget, it's pay pay pay forever. Look at Steve Smith, four years on and many are outraged that he's been made vice-captain - "Should never be captain again!!!"
. (They stop short of completely cancelling him as he's a darned good player, and the team needs him playing ... )How long before Paine can go out in public again without a pile-on from the "virtuous"?
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I think the issue is, feeling bad after having to face the consequences of a bad decision is normal human behaviour. Mental health issues didn’t cause the bad behaviour in the first place. That doesn’t prevent us from having some empathy, but neither does it preclude being responsible for one’s behaviour.
He'd be struggling alright, no doubt about it.
I used to do a lot of root cause analysis back when I worked for a living.
I don't think it would take a Rhodes Scholar to get to the root cause of Tim's problem.
Having said that, the subsequent pile on and his employer throwing him utterly under the bus in what was little more than virtue signalling is an utter disgrace.
I agree with you.The thing with sportspeople is it's all played out in public, the media and social media descend like locusts, judging, condemning, demanding "justice" and certain "punishments" to be imposed, because - community standards!!
No mention of forgive and forget, it's pay pay pay forever. Look at Steve Smith, four years on and many are outraged that he's been made vice-captain - "Should never be captain again!!!"
How long before Paine can go out in public again without a pile-on from the "virtuous"?
But that's pretty much happens when you're a well paid public figure.
They come after you.
Not saying it's right, but that's what happens.
Just saying, IMO, the mental health issues card is played out too frequently.
Corporations, companies are s**t scared of any flack and tend to over compensate.
Looks like the Australian Captain get's picked on his public image these days.
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This is where the beast of the media machine comes in though. Being shamed in front of millions in perpetuity is not something which is part of the natural human experience and even for celebrities it's taken on a new dimension.
Is bearing the wrath of modern social medias judgement really a proportionate part of taking responsibility for what Paine did? If it was any random bloke they wouldn't have the extra dimension.
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I largely agree with this. But let’s not forget, the rewards of being a sportsman are not proportionate either. It’s a high risk, high reward lifestyle.
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Shaun Pollock, Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis are good examples of fast bowlers being good captains of their country. Throw in Imran Khan as well. I think this is a good change and Pat has a good tactical brain from all reports. He won't wear himself out bowling I would think because he has to balance the responsibility out. Short sharp bursts with the ball.
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Cummins will dictate the bowling side of things. Who to use and when to use them.
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Yeah that chicken looks like it’s been stuck on the grill for a week too long.
Dont think anyone is touching them fillets or breast if they getting steak at home.
Poor Timmy must be a VERY hungry man.
Starving in fact!!
Sorry, but that’s insulting to all people suffering mental health.
He willing went to lengths to do something that’s not only wasn’t his wife, but a colleague. Then to get it quietly settled and to captain is another thing.
Finally it’s public knowledge, and Paine is struggling? It was always at the back of his mind. Struggling with what? The actual consequences of being a professional sportsman doing such a public thing.
Feel for the female who had to be quieted so that Paine can have his career advanced. Typical male behaviour.
FMD, I do not doubt for one moment he struggling mentally badly. Just have to read some of the out of touch and crazy reactions to know if he heard half the s**t that out there, would do his head in. The worst part is probably most of the speculation would be way off reality but most people will think it is the reality and with media s**t storm and cricket board bullshit and most of crap he has to deal with is probably not in proportion to what really went on in their real lives.
He and his wife will never be clear of the nonsense even though in their own relationship they dealt with real life stuff years ago.
He and his wife will never be clear of the nonsense even though in their own relationship they dealt with real life stuff years ago.
I really don't understand why people are outraged that he's decided to take some time off for the sake of his mental health? It's not "playing the mental health card" or blaming his behaviour on a diagnosed mental health condition. He's publicly saying he and his family are overwhelmed by the attention and are doing what's right for them. How is that not considered OK?
I will say though we should spare a thought for the woman involved in this and her mental health, the amount of people desperate to find out who she is so they can somehow gauge whether she is attractive enough to warrant paine acting so foolishly is disturbing as is the people convinced with zero proof she is a gold digger who is somehow to blame for paine's own actions.
paine messed up(and does appear to have genuine remorse) and paid a very very heavy price and he and his family should be left alone now and this woman is not a public figure and should be also left alone.
paine messed up(and does appear to have genuine remorse) and paid a very very heavy price and he and his family should be left alone now and this woman is not a public figure and should be also left alone.
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Hard to feel too sorry for Paine as he brought this on himself but it would be hard for him to have his test career ended so suddenly and shamefully.
Hopefully he can at least get back to play for Tassie again.
Hopefully he can at least get back to play for Tassie again.
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This is probably the best way to explain it. In attempting to better deal with mental health issues, we’ve broadened the term so much that it risks losing some meaning. Being held to account for you poor behaviour is not a mental illness but it’s perfectly fine to say something is overwhelming and you need a break.
Let's put it this way, have you had to wait for your partner ( whoever that may be at the time) to actually utter the words 'let's have sex'. Ok, personally, for me, a couple of times, when I was a bit slow on the uptake but 98% of the time, I've dropped my daks she's seen my dick without ever actually mouthing the words 'show me your dick'. Again I have never sent a dick pic but when two people are sexting then dick pics are bound to happen.
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Most mental health is caused by situational stimuli...exactly what Paine is experiencing.
Paine has been treated disgracefully.in saying that, he has made the right decision to stand down.
Any dropped catch, bye, failure with the bat, would have ratcheted up the pressure as the mob lights its torches....
Society is a disgrace.
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I disagree with that. Most transient mental issues that people may experience are often bought about by situational stimuli.
One person may lose their job or a relationship may breakdown. This can cause mental health issues depending on the individual.
Hasn't done much with the bat for some time.
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