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The last four straight years we have been hard by injuries.
Is it time to move on staff?
Are doing the same things and expecting a different result?
Agree.It’s the way the club is run. It’s short term gain for long term pain instead of vica versa. Stephen Hill is thrown to the wolves early in his career. Has a real early spike in form and is tagged from about his 30th game. He’s ground down and ends up chronically injured. Battered, bruised and spat out by the system by his late 20s. Contrast that story with Luke Schuey. Chronically injured in his early years. Missed large chunks of footy. Had recurring hammy’s. They look after him. Ease him in. Build his body. Give him rests when he’s battered. Ultimately he becomes a norm smith medalist. Late 20’s he’s durable and winning matches. Simple example but it occurs over and over and over again at Fremantle. They take a short sighted view. They’ve finally clicked in my opinion. Building Sturt up was a god send. But they don’t do it often enough yet.
If you can maintain a players career at the peak of their powers for longer, that’s what wins premierships. Enough players in that window where they are elite.
We don’t do that well. We need to get better at harnessing each individual within the squad.
The constant dribble about accelerated growth, fast tracking development, banging games into youngsters is a club ethos and it’s at the root of the problem.
It’s the way the club is run. It’s short term gain for long term pain instead of vica versa. Stephen Hill is thrown to the wolves early in his career. Has a real early spike in form and is tagged from about his 30th game. He’s ground down and ends up chronically injured. Battered, bruised and spat out by the system by his late 20s. Contrast that story with Luke Schuey. Chronically injured in his early years. Missed large chunks of footy. Had recurring hammy’s. They look after him. Ease him in. Build his body. Give him rests when he’s battered. Ultimately he becomes a norm smith medalist. Late 20’s he’s durable and winning matches. Simple example but it occurs over and over and over again at Fremantle. They take a short sighted view. They’ve finally clicked in my opinion. Building Sturt up was a god send. But they don’t do it often enough yet.
If you can maintain a players career at the peak of their powers for longer, that’s what wins premierships. Enough players in that window where they are elite.
We don’t do that well. We need to get better at harnessing each individual within the squad.
The constant dribble about accelerated growth, fast tracking development, banging games into youngsters is a club ethos and it’s at the root of the problem.
I agree with what you are saying about seeing data that actually benchmarks us against other clubs.Injuries are a very emotional thing. Footy's a very very emotional thing for supporters. Most every club's supporters would feel their club has the worst of it. So until I see some solid data I wouldn't be passing any definitive judgement on the S&C guys. But...
Given how many of the long term injury guys run into complications and/or never get back out on the park, the S&C guys don't really meet the excellence standard of indispensability, so I reckon a change might be worth it as you give yourself a chance to go out and hire someone who does (if you get the selection process right).
You're right on ensuring it's a holistic picture to be accounted for with S&C.I agree with what you are saying about seeing data that actually benchmarks us against other clubs.
I worry that simply looking at injuries is a bit narrow. The way we have a young side running out 4 quarters is pretty impressive. Rather than wholesale changes there may be some areas that can be improved.
How a big a field is out there in terms of experienced S&C professionals at the high end? I have no idea. Are they long-term contracted?
My take on it is we buy dodgy used cars from other people (clubs)and then blame our mechanics(fitness staff) when they can't fix it.
Hogan.Nah can’t agree with that. Bennell played plenty of footy with GC, Hill has only been with us, so too Sandi and Tabs.
Who else has been injury prone that our guys are getting blamed for?
This is a topic I follow closely. I have posted often with links to facts and figures.This thread is very funny, classic Big Footy and the sports fan in general.
I mean really, how would some bloke that works as, I dunno and accountant or plumber or whatever during the week that's only contact with the players is watching on the TV from their couch or 100m away up in the stands have any informed opinion on how competent these sorts of staff are at a football club?
Do you really think the people running the club aren't making sure we have the absolute best people available in these roles?
Maybe they aren't any good but to think you have any idea unless you are on the inner sanctum or at the very least trained in this area yourself is laughable.
This thread is very funny, classic Big Footy and the sports fan in general.
I mean really, how would some bloke that works as, I dunno and accountant or plumber or whatever during the week that's only contact with the players is watching on the TV from their couch or 100m away up in the stands have any informed opinion on how competent these sorts of staff are at a football club?
Do you really think the people running the club aren't making sure we have the absolute best people available in these roles?
Maybe they aren't any good but to think you have any idea unless you are on the inner sanctum or at the very least trained in this area yourself is laughable.
Just like all the 1000’s of accountants, plumbers, retirees and students that deny climate change is a thing. They should just stay home eh? They don’t have any idea either.Just like all the 1000’s of accountants, plumbers, retirees and students that protest against climate change. They should just stay home eh? They don’t have any idea either.
Hahah, draw a long bow why don't you..Just like all the 1000’s of accountants, plumbers, retirees and students that protest against climate change. They should just stay home eh? They don’t have any idea either.