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Seriously if a man asked me out and tried this crap, it would be the last date. I'm a strong believer in whoever asks , pays , then you split after that.

If I ask someone out am happy to pay but tend to think it should just be half.

I mean you want to get to know each other as equals etc so I try to avoid making an issue of it.

A man who pays however is demonstrating his status and wealth and thus more attractive to women...........Problem is it sets a pateern of expectation.

Last 5 dates of myself.........(different women)

I paid the first round. Split after.

I paid.

I paid.

I think split.

I paid. Was a total bust and I just wanted to get the hell out of there.

So given men do most of the asking can be an expensive equation. I guess the trick is to only ask out those you are really keen on.
 
If I ask someone out am happy to pay but tend to think it should just be half.

I mean you want to get to know each other as equals etc so I try to avoid making an issue of it.

A man who pays however is demonstrating his status and wealth and thus more attractive to women...........Problem is it sets a pateern of expectation.

Last 5 dates of myself.........(different women)

I paid the first round. Split after.

I paid.

I paid.

I think split.

I paid. Was a total bust and I just wanted to get the hell out of there.

So given men do most of the asking can be an expensive equation. I guess the trick is to only ask out those you are really keen on.
This is what I think . If he asks he pays. If I ask I pay. I would of course offer to split bill . I would expect him to pay first time only. Or vice versa. Then I would expect to split. I think women who expect the man to always pay are just not cool.
 
This is what I think . If he asks he pays. If I ask I pay. I would of course offer to split bill . I would expect him to pay first time only. Or vice versa. Then I would expect to split. I think women who expect the man to always pay are just not cool.

Sorry one thing I don't get. If you really don't want to pay why even offer?
 

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I understand the thinking of the bloke always pays, but in today's world where women aren't just housewives it doesn't really make sense.

If i'm always paying for dates then I feel it'd just create some weird dynamic where I'm like a father taking his daughter out for dinner or something.
 
See that actually would make me uncomfortable.
I'm trying to make a good impression. I guess I'm a bit old fashioned like that. Not white knighting myself or anything like that, I just believe if you're asking a girl out, its only right to pay
 
I'm trying to make a good impression. I guess I'm a bit old fashioned like that. Not white knighting myself or anything like that, I just believe if you're asking a girl out, its only right to pay
I would feel like I owed the man something if he paid for anything, and that's not a position I'd want to be in. Also, I'm more than capable of paying for myself. I think it's a bit hypocritical to expect to be treated equally to a man, as I do, and yet expect free dinner or to be treated like a princess.
 
I would feel like I owed the man something if he paid for anything, and that's not a position I'd want to be in. Also, I'm more than capable of paying for myself. I think it's a bit hypocritical to expect to be treated equally to a man, as I do, and yet expect free dinner or to be treated like a princess.
Granted, but if you're trying to find the one, treating a lady like a princess is an aim isn't it
 

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Meh, I'd always pay on a first date, just reckon it's what you do. Of course, I'd expect a root or at the very least a wristie in return.
Some light rimming at a minimum IMO
 
I'm trying to make a good impression. I guess I'm a bit old fashioned like that. Not white knighting myself or anything like that, I just believe if you're asking a girl out, its only right to pay
Girls will think you're desperate and a push over if you insist and pay all the time.

Splitting bills = treating them as equal worth.
 
Not for me. I'm no princess. I guess it depends what sort of woman you're attracted to...clearly one like me would not be your type!
Not clearly at all ;) /strongcringe
 
Girls will think you're desperate and a push over if you insist and pay all the time.

Splitting bills = treating them as equal worth.
I'm only talking first date
 
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