Play Nice Tippett Nominates Sydney - Part II

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If it was the case of adelaide accepting any offer just to make the trade happen, this saga would have ended last week.
I think the ball is in sydneys court. Obviously adelaide are prepared get rid of him no matter what, so whats holding it up?
Hubris. Adelaide are holding a pair of twos and the Swans have a flush. Adelaide think a pair of twos is a good hand. Funny Adelaide.
 

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If it was the case of adelaide accepting any offer just to make the trade happen, this saga would have ended last week.
I think the ball is in sydneys court. Obviously adelaide are prepared get rid of him no matter what, so whats holding it up?
They want a top 5 pick (or player equivalent) and we are not going to give that to them
 

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Soon Adelaide will have to accept our offer or they'll get nothing
I would prefer to get nothing than pick 22 and some potato

The club may not think the same way. But IMO, its time we made a stand so that the next person who wants to leave, we get a good deal

I still don't think it'll come to that. I think a good deal will be done by the clubs. It isn't amateur hour at club level
 

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If it was the case of adelaide accepting any offer just to make the trade happen, this saga would have ended last week.
I think the ball is in sydneys court. Obviously adelaide are prepared get rid of him no matter what, so whats holding it up?
Sydney hijacked a player they couldn't possibly afford to pick up in trade without giving up something they don't want to lose, and find themselves in a position where they've promised a purchase, but don't want to afford the asking price.

Clearly someone in the Swans hierarchy has made a big mistake somewhere along the line, and now they don't know how to get out of it. I suspect Ireland has been royally suckered by Tippett's agent.
 

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Apparently Melbourne believe Dawes is worth pick 20. Dawes is a premiership player and a KPF, similar to Tippett in many ways. So I'd imagine if that trade goes through pick 22 and a fringe would be an excellent result for Adelaide, surely?

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/demons-look-to-make-deal-for-dawes-20121013-27k12.html
You know Clark Keating was a premiership player and could have played KPF. Maybe we should have traded him for a top 20 pick when we could?

Dawes output is considerably less than Tip. But i think you know that and are now just blatantly trolling because you're bored on a Sunday
 

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...I have no doubt that Sydney (the club) are aware of what he's worth and they're having to talk to their players and see who wants to move to get the best pick possible (and needed) to get the deal done..
Good point, we should spare a thought for these players, through no fault of their own, feeling a subtle pressure to move on, whether to Adelaide or another club. Families, mortgages, kids in schools.
 

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You know Clark Keating was a premiership player and could have played KPF. Maybe we should have traded him for a top 20 pick when we could?

Dawes output is considerably less than Tip. But i think you know that and are now just blatantly trolling because you're bored on a Sunday
True, we're all bored and wish it was over. Better to aim for laughs in this thread, the rest has been said a guzillion times.
 

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Sydney hijacked a player they couldn't possibly afford to pick up in trade without giving up something they don't want to lose, and find themselves in a position where they've promised a purchase, but don't want to afford the asking price.

Clearly someone in the Swans hierarchy has made a big mistake somewhere along the line, and now they don't know how to get out of it. I suspect Ireland has been royally suckered by Tippett's agent.
You sir are this hour's winner in the "Most Speculative and Unsubstantiated Post" Award. Congratulations!
 

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Dawes output is considerably less than Tip. But i think you know that and are now just blatantly trolling because you're bored on a Sunday
The funny thing is, Jay Schulz's output is greater than Tippett's, despite playing fewer games and having injury issues as well, but that comparison was laughed off.
 

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Plus poker isn't the best analogy I now realize. In poker you can't see the other player's cards, but in this game the Swans and Adelaide can see clearly what the other's holding. Everyone can see your pair of twos. It ain't pretty.
Thats ok. I'm happy for the club to bluff off our chips in this pot ans get nothing back. Will make our cards better next time
 

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The funny thing is, Jay Schulz's output is greater than Tippett's, despite playing fewer games and having injury issues as well, but that comparison was laughed off.
So Schulz plays in the ruck too does he? And do you think any club would offer him $1m a season? Didn't think so. I wonder why that would be?

Players like Tippett are one of the most valuable commodities in modern football when you take into consideration the sub rule. He's a power forward who is a very good ruckman. He's the ultimate back up. Gives your main ruck a rest and you still hold the power in the middle. There's a reason he's been offered the big bucks

Dawes at least rucks, so the comparison's are fair there. But Schulz is a forward and only a forward. Lame trolling attempt
 

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So Schulz plays in the ruck too does he? And do you think any club would offer him $1m a season? Didn't think so. I wonder why that would be?

Players like Tippett are one of the most valuable commodities in modern football when you take into consideration the sub rule. He's a power forward who is a very good ruckman. He's the ultimate back up. Gives your main ruck a rest and you still hold the power in the middle. There's a reason he's been offered the big bucks

Dawes at least rucks, so the comparison's are fair there. But Schulz is a forward and only a forward. Lame trolling attempt
I'm going to be "semi-serious" for one second. I don't think Sydney are after Tippett to fill a role as a forward who rucks. We are after him as a FF. Pyke is our rotating big man, and even if we get Tippett that won't change (barring injuries etc). I'd imagine we'd park Tippett in the goal square and say, "Stay there, catch and kick".

Now back to the silliness. Take pick 22, it's a great offer. We'll even throw in White.
 

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So Schulz plays in the ruck too does he? And do you think any club would offer him $1m a season? Didn't think so. I wonder why that would be?
No one's offered Tippett $1m either. That's the problem with the discussion,really. If anyone highlights that Tippett isn't as amazing as being suggested, it just falls back to 'well your team is offering him 1m.' which hasn't been confirmed or even suggested from any credible source.

I've read a lot about how Tippett is the prototype key forward, how he kicks goals, marks, sets up, does it all yet a player with fewer games, deliver from a worse midfield and without the benefit of a Walker in the arc has beaten him across almost every stat you measure a key forward on.

I've also seen ranges of how much he rucks that are pretty wide and how many games he had affected through concussion, so there seem to be a number of qualifiers that apply to Tippett that apparently don't apply to others.
 

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I'm going to be "semi-serious" for one second. I don't think Sydney are after Tippett to fill a role as a forward who rucks. We are after him as a FF. Pyke is our rotating big man, and even if we get Tippett that won't change (barring injuries etc). I'd imagine we'd park Tippett in the goal square and say, "Stay there, catch and kick".

Now back to the silliness. Take pick 22, it's a great offer. We'll even throw in White.
You don't think you'd be too tall playing Mummy, Pyke and Tip at the SCG?
 

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Are Sydney so used to getting everything given to them on a silver platter that they have lost touch with reality?

Pick 22 ? Which will end up about 25 with 2 players gone in the mini draft.

Why would the Crows significantly improve a direct premiership contender for a shot at the 27 th best player in the draft ?

It's gonna take a top 5-6 pick, 2 top 15 picks or a player who would be in the Crows best 10-12 otherwise why would the Crows do it ?
 

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Are Sydney so used to getting everything given to them on a silver platter that they have lost touch with reality?

Pick 22 ? Which will end up about 25 with 2 players gone in the mini draft.

Why would the Crows significantly improve a direct premiership contender for a shot at the 27 th best player in the draft ?

It's gonna take a top 5-6 pick, 2 top 15 picks or a player who would be in the Crows best 10-12 otherwise why would the Crows do it ?
Thanks for your contribution Mr (attempted) Bandwagoner. You have no idea what you're talking about. Keep it up.
 

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You don't think you'd be too tall playing Mummy, Pyke and Tip at the SCG?
Getting Tippett would free LRT up to go back, where he is most worth to us. Pyke ensures that Tippett would be hard to double-team, as he is very good overhead and strong in a marking contest. Throw Goodes forward (which will happen more and more) and Reid at CHF and opposition defenses are suddenly in a world of trouble. All of this in theory though.
 
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