Play Nice Tippett Nominates Sydney - Part II

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GWS would take any big fish surely
Doesn't really work that way, if you are going to commit $800,000 a year of your TPP to a player you need to be sure that you have a gap in your list and a need for that player.

What happens next year if a Judd came up and you had a hole in the middle on your list? Compromises your ability to trade for what you want or need in the future.

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Yeah i did about trading picks, whats thats gotta do with drafting though, and the right price, doesnt mean anyhthing certain
Hmmm, assuming they don't get the trades done and they've still got the picks, what do you think they will do with them? Pick kids and let the biggest fish of the trade period swim to you guys?
 

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Hmmm, assuming they don't get the trades done and they've still got the picks, what do you think they will do with them? Pick kids and let the biggest fish of the trade period swim to you guys?
I think so, the price and type of player is just not what they are looking for or need at present.

If Tippett was a KPD or first ruck then that is a no brainer for them.

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Hmmm, assuming they don't get the trades done and they've still got the picks, what do you think they will do with them? Pick kids and let the biggest fish of the trade period swim to you guys?

Well depends how good the kids are and salary cap space, do they want tippett when he doesnt want to be there, 5 quality kids your passing up

I presume you know the answer of course
 

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It's possible, but I reckon Sydney and GWS have been in some deep discussions about using Giles as part of the deal so the Swans would have a fair idea what GWS's thoughts are on Tippett.

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Adelaide and GWS negotiated independently for Giles, and in the end he signed an extension with the GWS, with two conflicting stories as to who knocked whom back, and why.
 

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I presume you do too ;) By the way, what was the answer, 100?

Nah thats why i said i wonder what they will do if he is in the national draft seeking 4 years for close to 4 mill, i dont know at all.

I just want it done one way or the other then we can work on trades with clubs that dont stuff around
 

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Nah thats why i said i wonder what they will do if he is in the national draft seeking 4 years for close to 4 mill, i dont know at all.

I just want it done one way or the other then we can work on trades with clubs that dont stuff around
So we are stuffing around by not taking 22 for Tippett? Fair dinkum, everyone knows that's unders.

But I agree can't wait for it to be over, by the way I reckon you are now up to post 103
 

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So we are stuffing around by not taking 22 for Tippett? Fair dinkum, everyone knows that's unders.

But I agree can't wait for it to be over, by the way I reckon you are now up to post 103

Wicked i might catch button92 for crap contributed soon then ill have you in my sights
 

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What available evidence?
They have two young quality KPF's already
They have just resigned their ruckman
They were never interested in Cloke
The only other two suitors in GC and Brisbane are out
They could just use pick 13 in the ND rather than trade pick 2 as the Swans are the only other suitor

Collectively the evidence suggests that GWS are not interested, but if they were pick 13 would only need to be used fom their end.

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They have two young quality KPF's already
They have just resigned their ruckman
They were never interested in Cloke
The only other two suitors in GC and Brisbane are out
They could just use pick 13 in the ND rather than trade pick 2 as the Swans are the only other suitor

Collectively the evidence suggests that GWS are not interested, but if they were pick 13 would only need to be used fom their end.

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You could also add to this that Sydney could trade a White & TDL combo for pick 70 odd for a nudge and wink that they leave Tippett to pick 22.

In the end I hope that we can package something to GWS for pick 13, this would be borderline fair for a player who is walking from an Adelaide perspective.

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Don't think GWS would do this, but what about the following:

White, TDL and pick 22 to GWS
Pick 13 to Adelaide
Tippett to Sydney

Would Adelaide supporters take pick 13?

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Swans have been trying to work on something to prise pick 12 or 13 from GWS, especially after they indicated a week or so ago that they were willing to part with some draft picks to get more experienced players into their squad. Unfortunately, I am not sure that either TDL or White would be what they are looking for. They'd be after players - not necessarily stars but solid performers - in the 24-26 age range, something the Swans don't have an abundance of and those they do have (Kennedy, Jack, Smith) are players they'd been least likely to part with. Bird is the only one in this age range who I think they might consider trading.

Of course, Crows fans would argue pick 12 or 13 is still not enough, given many of them have their hearts set on a top 10 pick and another in the 10-20 range. But the closest similar trade of recent years to the Tippett trade was Mitch Clark (similar age, out of contract, big contract offered, attractive more for potential and flashes of brilliance than sustained, top quality performance) who was traded for pick 12, IIRC.
 

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Of course, Crows fans would argue pick 12 or 13 is still not enough, given many of them have their hearts set on a top 10 pick and another in the 10-20 range. But the closest similar trade of recent years to the Tippett trade was Mitch Clark (similar age, out of contract, big contract offered, attractive more for potential and flashes of brilliance than sustained, top quality performance) who was traded for pick 12, IIRC.
Not to mention Adelaide is in no position to demand for more really. Who's going to trump an offer of pick 13, definitely not Sydney with pick 22 and actually want/afford Tippett. Similar situation with Clark and Brisbane last year, Fremantle were only offering pick 16 but Brisbane wanted more. When Melbourne popped in with pick 12, Brisbane took it, as they knew they weren't going to get better anywhere else.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Swans have been trying to work on something to prise pick 12 or 13 from GWS, especially after they indicated a week or so ago that they were willing to part with some draft picks to get more experienced players into their squad. Unfortunately, I am not sure that either TDL or White would be what they are looking for. They'd be after players - not necessarily stars but solid performers - in the 24-26 age range, something the Swans don't have an abundance of and those they do have (Kennedy, Jack, Smith) are players they'd been least likely to part with. Bird is the only one in this age range who I think they might consider trading.

Of course, Crows fans would argue pick 12 or 13 is still not enough, given many of them have their hearts set on a top 10 pick and another in the 10-20 range. But the closest similar trade of recent years to the Tippett trade was Mitch Clark (similar age, out of contract, big contract offered, attractive more for potential and flashes of brilliance than sustained, top quality performance) who was traded for pick 12, IIRC.
Agree liz, I didn't think they would do it but GWS and their pick 12 or 13 are really the only hope the deal gets done for Adelaide. Otherwise it's the ND or PSD.

Bird is an interesting one, he would command something in a deal with GWS and from a list perspective we have some cover for him with Mitchell on ball and maybe Lamb up forward.

Getting pick 12 or 13 from GWS is now the key and the only real shot Adelaide have of getting something other than pick 22 for Tippett.

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