WaynesWorld19
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This thread goes in roundabouts, but if we can get Gorringe + a late first rounder I'd be happy with that.
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This thread goes in roundabouts, but if we can get Gorringe + a late first rounder I'd be happy with that.
I agree Day should be the target ....Gorringe is the fall backI don't think Gorringe is the target here. I think we are after Day.
VB is running laps.Great to see Dangerfield standing up and saying what he thinks.
http://www.afc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4417/newsid/149048/default.aspx
Led me to think why is he doing all the talking? Is VB away at the moment? Unless VB is incommunicado somewhere, maybe Danger has the balls and should be the captain?
Nowhere have I said that. Tippett was given games early on in his career when he didn't deserve them - partly because they could see his potential to be an elite talent, partly because our older KPP forwards were dropping like flies (leaving us few options). Those early games need to be seen in the perspective of a player who was still very much learning the game.Ok then Kurt's first 23 games were out of this world then?
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VB is running laps.
Nah, I love VB too
I'll disagree .....no doubt Smack has the talent AND ticker ......IMO he just doesn't have the level of maturity YETI'm still yet to see anything which suggests to me that Smack will make it as an AFL footballer. I don't doubt he has the talent - it's his ticker that's in question.
They could under the rules which applied to them for the 2011 PSD. Given that they have a 2-year window for signing uncontracted players I'm expecting the same rules to apply in 2012, but I haven't found any written confirmation of that.Thanks Vader - I should have been more explicit...can GWS select Tippett in the PSD AND we get compo from the AFL. I did realise that Tippett's nom for the draft (with specified terms) constitutes acceptance of whoever picks him up.
The compo for losing a player via the PSD is the same as it is for a player GWS sign as an uncontracted player. The same formula which the AFL uses with all the transparency of a wooden door.I'm concerned that we only get the AFL uncontracted player compo if the deal is a trade (which requires agreement of two clubs AND one player...which won't be forthcoming). Otherwise he could go to GWS in the PSD but we'd be left with nothing.
Note that I have not been able to locate any equivalent rule regarding the 2012 PSD.36.11 Participation in Pre-Season Draft - 2011
(c) If WSFC selects a Player pursuant to this Rule 36.11, the Club that most recently Listed the Player shall be entitled to a compensatory selection as determined by the AFL pursuant to Rule 36.7.
Nowhere have I said that. Tippett was given games early on in his career when he didn't deserve them - partly because they could see his potential to be an elite talent, partly because our older KPP forwards were dropping like flies (leaving us few options). Those early games need to be seen in the perspective of a player who was still very much learning the game.
In contrast, the presence of Kurt, Tex and Jenkins has meant that Smack's opportunities have been limited - and he hasn't been fast tracked because the outrageous talent just isn't there (for the definition of outrageous talent see Tex Walker). Yes, he was brought into the side younger than Tippett (who was 20 when he was drafted), but Smack also has a much stronger Australian Rules pedigree than Tippett. Swings & roundabouts - more expected due to him not having such a steep learning curve, less expected due to younger age & less physical development.
I'm still yet to see anything which suggests to me that Smack will make it as an AFL footballer. I don't doubt he has the talent - it's his ticker that's in question.
Day yes, I love Gorringe but can't in all fairness rate him higher than Tippett, sticky noI'll let everyone know, glad this saved some time...
Do you honestly rate Day, Gorringe, Tape higher than Tippett?
Secondly, who would you select with #2, and #13 (odd)? Curious.
Yes Big picture thinking, plus Kurt doesn't guarantee a ladder boostNo interest in going up the ladder; would rather just stockpile youth?
Suns won't bend you over, can't talk for the pies, blues or swansNoble on 5AA said we won't be bent over. I'll believe it when I see it.
Also said Kurt hasn't advised us which club and until he does we are in limbo. Does he want another 6 months to decide to screw us over some more?Noble on 5AA said we won't be bent over. I'll believe it when I see it.
None of those sides are in a position toSuns won't bend you over, can't talk for the pies, blues or swans
It's getting to everyone, not doing himself any favours holding out like he isYou'll give us Pick 2 and like it young man!
Sorry for being so harsh this whole Tippet saga is getting to me....tell you what chuck in Day as well and we will call it evens.
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6 months, now don't try and rush himAlso said Kurt hasn't advised us which club and until he does we are in limbo. Does he want another 6 months to decide to screw us over some more?
Everything I've heard about all this is saying Tippetts gone to Sydney.Who have they got to give us I can't see anything on their list we would want. If we can't get a deal done he is just going to go GC for free. He has seriously f****d us over. We have to be the most agressive at the trade table like never before. If it was me I would demand pick 2 and what ever they get in the Caddy deal. F**k I'm angry
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Have faith Brassy, AFGM assures us the GC deal is in the bag.
Swans and Crows have had a great trading relationship for many years ....Sydney well respectedSuns won't bend you over, can't talk for the pies, blues or swans
Not sure how demanding 2 and Caddys pick is going to work if he is in Sydney my friend, plus playing hard a$$ at the trade table always come back to bite you, EDIT you make your "demands" we drop out and Sydney give you a hand full of marbles or worse he goes into the draftEverything I've heard about all this is saying Tippetts gone to Sydney.Who have they got to give us I can't see anything on their list we would want. If we can't get a deal done he is just going to go GC for free. He has seriously f****d us over. We have to be the most agressive at the trade table like never before. If it was me I would demand pick 2 and what ever they get in the Caddy deal. F**k I'm angry
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