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Which AFC deserter were/are you most salty towards?


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Someone asked if it was ballsy or naive to say that. I answered. Never said there was anything wrong with it. Just thought it was naive of him to do so.

It's naive if he hasn't already had discussions with a targeted player, if he has then he looks like a strong leader that can deliver, if has hasn't spoken to the potential target then yes it is naive as if they turn him down flat he has no wiggle room and makes the Crows look (incorrectly in my opinion) less than attractive as a location.
 
It's naive if he hasn't already had discussions with a targeted player, if he has then he looks like a strong leader that can deliver, if has hasn't spoken to the potential target then yes it is naive as if they turn him down flat he has no wiggle room and makes the Crows look (incorrectly in my opinion) less than attractive as a location.

It's naive because the coach doesn't have anything to do with the recruiting. It's not up to Sanderson to pick targets, and it's not up to him to talk to any targets unless the Recruiting Manager feels it's necessary to get a player over the line.
 
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Would his agent when negotiating with the clubs be asking about possible trades? Surely he would need to know a deal is remotely possible before nominating a club?
 
Jenny, Jenny, Jenny.

You said, and I quote " He missed 6 games though and was concussed in 3 others. So he didn't do too badly".

That would be nine matches when he couldn't score votes. Would you like to have another go at this Jenny?

P.S. Talk about re-inventing the truth:rolleyes:

No, I didn't reinvent anything, I had a guess and got it wrong. He still missed essentially 6 games he couldn't poll in, so he did well.

Edit: just seen vaders post. So :p Oh and nice deflection. :rolleyes:

And the comment re walker missing 6 games, he most likely would have won the thing if he hadn't! Clearly had a better year than kurt. Has diddly squat to do with Kurt making the top 10 if he hadn't missed though.
 
I feel you guys should be seriously pissed if Tippett goes to the Swans. I'd love to know what the Swans intend on putting up for trade to get Tippettt if he does choose them. Your management will demand the world especially since he isn't going home IMO.
 
I feel you guys should be seriously pissed if Tippett goes to the Swans. I'd love to know what the Swans intend on putting up for trade to get Tippettt if he does choose them. Your management will demand the world especially since he isn't going home IMO.


i don't care so much as were he will end up, as long as we get the best deal from him ;)
 
i don't care so much as were he will end up, as long as we get the best deal from him ;)

Fair enough but you'd have to be pretty dirty that the home sickness shit has been said all year and he might go to Sydney. I think Sydney have the least amount to give you as well. Time will tell. Hopefully you get properly compensated.
 
Fair enough but you'd have to be pretty dirty that the home sickness shit has been said all year and he might go to Sydney. I think Sydney have the least amount to give you as well. Time will tell. Hopefully you get properly compensated.

Of course we are, that's why there's two threads totaling almost 400 pages! The fact that Sydney has entered the picture now (whether real or manufactured) has pretty much dirtied his name now. Even if he ends up at GC, he will still be seen to be a $$$$ digger. Maybe unfair given its his manager making all the moves, but it is was it is.
 

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i don't care so much as were he will end up, as long as we get the best deal from him ;)
I agree!
I'm thinking, like most, that Brisbane might be able to come up with a deal that we like best. Remains to be seen!
GC seems to be excluding pick 2 & anyone with talent.
& Sydney seems to have least to offer, it would be strengthening a potential final opponent & anyone that now wears a premiership medal (& even some that missed out) have been made immune from trading according to their fans.
 
Trigg & Harper have more or less stated that there was a gentlemen's agreement.. but a gentlemen's agreement isn't a contract. You've been insisting all along that Tippett signed a contract with GC during a window of opportunity 12 months ago. The contract you've alledged obviously doesn't exist and never has.

My interpretation is that there could have been a written contract between Tippett & GC (signed during that loophole period last year),
and a separate "gentleman's agreement" between Tippett & the Crows (agreement made at the time of his last contract extension).
I think that is all in line with what AFGM has stated.

What i dont understand, however, are the legal (if any) or other ramifications if the Crows do not adhere to that gentleman's agreement and therefore how binding is it?
In addition, that "gentleman's agreement" (if it does have any legal "binding" and not just a moral one), seems to have a major problem with the interpretation of the trade compensation to be received by the Crows. An argument could be made supporting both interpretations.

IMO a fair (to all parties) interpretation would be a mid to late first round pick (10-18) plus end of round 1 pick (about 20) OR player equivalents for either/both components.
That would seem fair to all 3 parties and also to future dealings involving clubs.
 
He missed 4 games and was concussed in 3. That's almost 1/3 of the season eliminated completely. Then there's the games he played upon returning, where his confidence was clearly way down, resulting in a whole bunch of sub-par performances. If we count those games as being concussion affected, then his count of concussion affected games comes to 12 - from a 25 game season.

He polled 53 votes in the games where he was fully effective. It's not unreasonable to extrapolate that to a total of approx 80-90 votes, if he hadn't effectively lost 12 games to concussion. That would be enough votes to rank him approx 4th on our B&F ladder, well ahead of Walker.

*** Shoulda, coulda, woulda, didn't. If my auntie had balls, she'd be my uncle. Yes, I'm well aware that this is a hypothetical suggestion. The main point is that his relatively poor B&F result (53 votes - 15th overall) has been heavily impacted by the concussions he suffered repeatedly through the latter half of the season.

Concussion 1 was against North Melbourne in Round 13. He ran out the next week to play against Richmond, was well enough to kick 3 goals, take 6 grabs and get 2 votes in the B+F.

Concussions 2 and 3 caused him to miss Rounds 16, 18 and 19 and 20. In round 21, he had no impact against Brisbane, but had 18 touches, 11 grabs, 3 goals and got 4 B+F votes in Round 22 against Melbourne.

At best, you can come up with 8 matches where his voting potential was affected by concussion - the 3 he got hurt, the 4 he missed, and the Brisbane game.

Another way to look at it was that after Round 12 before the concussion hit, Tippett had 38 votes, which was outside the top 5 at that stage (Reilly and Jacobs were tied for 4th at 40 votes). By comparison, Tex had 36 votes - and had served a 2 game suspension for tackling Harry Taylor.

Extrapolating based on 12 concussion affected games is simply wrong. Extrapolating Tippett's season as being better than Tex's is very dubious.
 
So, from all reports its Sydney.

Devastated.

Nothing to be gained out of this unless Sydney can pull something out of their rear's that may satisfy us in a trade.

Just cant see an elaborate three way deal happening either.

Face it folks, best we may get here is a fringe spud Sydney player and pick 22. AFC needs to lube up big time here.

$kirt is a flog of the highest order.
 
So, from all reports its Sydney.

Devastated.

Nothing to be gained out of this unless Sydney can pull something out of their rear's that may satisfy us in a trade.

Just cant see an elaborate three way deal happening either.

Face it folks, best we may get here is a fringe spud Sydney player and pick 22. AFC needs to lube up big time here.

$kirt is a flog of the highest order.
Id send him to the PSD for pick 22 and a fringe player.
 

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So, from all reports its Sydney.

Devastated.

Nothing to be gained out of this unless Sydney can pull something out of their rear's that may satisfy us in a trade.

Just cant see an elaborate three way deal happening either.

Face it folks, best we may get here is a fringe spud Sydney player and pick 22. AFC needs to lube up big time here.

$kirt is a flog of the highest order.

IF that ends up being the outcome, you would of been royally shafted, surely they will come up with a better deal. Either way the Crows / Swans game next year will be must watch TV
 
What time is the announcement?
After Kurt spends 3.5 hours deciding what to have for breakfast, he will then spend another 2 hours deciding whether to floss. After that he needs to sort out what handbag goes with his outfit, so thats another 3 hours. He is going shopping with his mum so its another 3 hours in a food court trying to decide whats for lunch. Then he will need an afternoon nap after his stressful day. So expect a decision about 9pm after hes had time for his desert to settle.
 
After Kurt spends 3.5 hours deciding what to have for breakfast, he will then spend another 2 hours deciding whether to floss. After that he needs to sort out what handbag goes with his outfit, so thats another 3 hours. He is going shopping with his mum so its another 3 hours in a food court trying to decide whats for lunch. Then he will need an afternoon nap after his stressful day. So expect a decision about 9pm after hes had time for his desert to settle.
Bwahaha. I loled. Thanks.
 
Concussion 1 was against North Melbourne in Round 13. He ran out the next week to play against Richmond, was well enough to kick 3 goals, take 6 grabs and get 2 votes in the B+F.

Concussions 2 and 3 caused him to miss Rounds 16, 18 and 19 and 20. In round 21, he had no impact against Brisbane, but had 18 touches, 11 grabs, 3 goals and got 4 B+F votes in Round 22 against Melbourne.

At best, you can come up with 8 matches where his voting potential was affected by concussion - the 3 he got hurt, the 4 he missed, and the Brisbane game.

Another way to look at it was that after Round 12 before the concussion hit, Tippett had 38 votes, which was outside the top 5 at that stage (Reilly and Jacobs were tied for 4th at 40 votes). By comparison, Tex had 36 votes - and had served a 2 game suspension for tackling Harry Taylor.

Extrapolating based on 12 concussion affected games is simply wrong. Extrapolating Tippett's season as being better than Tex's is very dubious.

Was anyone saying tips season was better than Tex's? :eek: sorry just saw vaders comments. Vader you can't be serious? You also haven't taken into account texs missed games, yeah?
 
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