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Which AFC deserter were/are you most salty towards?

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Mighty Chinook said:
Heard a whisper that Mick Malthouse and Carlton are quietly waiting in the wings for this one to play out. They've basically done nothing this trade period, but they're hoping that Kurt falls to the PSD where they will pick him up. They are staying coy about all this because obviously if they flag their interest it will encourage Sydney to put a proper deal on the table to the Crows. Will be interesting to see how that plays out for them; obviously a big KPF is what they're lacking...
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I can just imagine the meeting between Malthouse, Swan (CEO) and McKay (Footy Manager)....OK boys I have a cunning plan - we wait here quietly and then when Tippett goes into the PSD we swoop and he'll be ours! But the most important thing - and this is critical - is that we must have the element of surprise...no one else can know about this. So lips sealed gents! Oh alright Swanny - you can tell Mighty Chinook but that is it...;)
 
Bob Neil said:
I can just imagine the meeting between Malthouse, Swan (CEO) and McKay (Footy Manager)....OK boys I have a cunning plan - we wait here quietly and then when Tippett goes into the PSD we swoop and he'll be ours! But the most important thing - and this is critical - is that we must have the element of surprise...no one else can know about this. So lips sealed gents! Oh alright Swanny - you can tell Mighty Chinook but that is it...;)
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"Swanny" can be quite talkative after a few beers
 
So lets assume there is some BS agreement/clause whatever hanging around the place that he must be traded to his club of choice. F#ck him.... what will he do sue AFC? For what? If he ends up getting his asking price (say at Carlton) it wont be for loss of income so what would he sue for breach of contract? Dont see it happening! NO TRADE AFC unless Swans come to the party otherwise see you in court Skirt if thats what you want....... The AFL would NOT want to open that can of worms either.
 
Lozza71 said:
So lets assume there is some BS agreement/clause whatever hanging around the place that he must be traded to his club of choice. F#ck him.... what will he do sue AFC? For what? If he ends up getting his asking price (say at Carlton) it wont be for loss of income so what would he sue for breach of contract? Dont see it happening! NO TRADE AFC unless Swans come to the party otherwise see you in court Skirt if thats what you want....... The AFL would NOT want to open that can of worms either.
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Let's not assume please! That's mostly why we've had 12000 posts!
 
Allefgib said:
I still think we've got an issue with something agreed in 2009. Nobes has had to push as hard as he can til Triggy got back.
Meeting Saturday was likely to discuss whether they 'fight' the previous agreement (which may have been as simple as not sending Kurt into PSD at end of contract i.e. we will trade you and not leave you at the mercy of the PSD) or just accpet that they can't change that and how then to get any leverage.

If true, and all my own guesses based on what I see and nothing more, will be interesting what the club chooses to do.

What makes me believe this?
- nobes backing away from anything to do with knowing what happened end of 2009. Of course he knows - but he is distancing himself as far from it as possible.
- Rowey, and others, talking about 'selling our soul'. I reckon they know something but obviously wouldn't say it in public.
- Yes AFL have knocked back any clauses on specific types of draft picks to be traded instead of Kurt, but is saying 'we won't put you in PSD' something that would be considered draft tampering? I'm guessing its grey - but not unreasonable.
- The confidence of Blucher and Ireland that they can do this trade despite how unbalanced it is. Tippett says 'I want Sydney' and we can't send him to PSD means Sydney can offer us what they want.
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Notwthstanding that i agree with the thoughts you have expressed, I do wonder what are the ramifications if we (AFC) ignore any such agreement and do indeed send him to the PSD? (ie can we be sued for damages? if the only ramification is our "integrity", i would say "stuff it", since any reasonable person and probably most of our players would support our position given what Tippett (& Sydney) have done so far.
 
entourage said:
As much as I'd hate to see Carlton secure a quality player like Tippett, I would love to see it happen in this scenario. Nothing would please me more than to see Sydney miss out on Tippett because they are tight-arse negotiators. I pray that your mob doesn't roll over for a set of steak-knives and a potato masher in return for Tippett.
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In this scenario yes Sydney are being tight but prior to this Sydney were known to very reasonable and in fact the Crows had a very good history of working with them to get trades done. $kurt obviously believes his handshake agreement with the AFC to get him home should he wish to go should be transferable to Sydney. Sydney, obviously aware of that agreement, believes they should not offer any more than 23 plus a minor/unwanted player to AFC. I might think that unreasonable, Sydney might think it fair, but what is clear is that this situation is in many ways of our own making as a football club. I would expect Adelaide to attempt to get the best possible outcome if the tables were reversed. Equally I expect the club to get the best possible outcome as it currently stands.

Sydney does not have to do us any favours, they need to decide however the value of Kurt compared with losing a pick and a player of more preference to us, the risk of allowing Kurt to go to the ND or PSD where they will be required to use a pick and the overall risk of creating a challenged working relationship with the AFC, who they may in the future need to work with again. The AFC is beginning to create an atmosphere of mutual destruction in the hope that this might bring Sydney to the table. Given Sydney need to backend his contract i think it highly unlikely that GWS, Carlton, Freo and even ourselves, would let him pass without picking him up. It is Adelaide's last play and I am glad the club appears happy to allow him to go to the draft. But it is clear that this is as much a player contract stuff up by our club as it is Sydney being overly tight.
 
johnnypanther said:
Notwthstanding that i agree with the thoughts you have expressed, I do wonder what are the ramifications if we (AFC) ignore any such agreement and do indeed send him to the PSD? (ie can we be sued for damages? if the only ramification is our "integrity", i would say "stuff it", since any reasonable person and probably most of our players would support our position given what Tippett (& Sydney) have done so far.
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We can't be sued for a verbal agreement! IF there was such nonsense in the first place.
 
I don't know who would go near this guy now. I'm surprised Sydney haven't pulled out of the race after seeing the bad press, supporters fury (from both sides) and potential detrimental effects this trade could have on their premiership winning team. I wonder if Kurt is having regrets about how he has conducted his business?
 

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Lozza71 said:
Thanks for your words of wisdom :rolleyes:
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You are most welcome. o_O

Most of the crap in this thread has been over reaction to rumors and heresay. One minute we have the lynch mob to hang noble, Harper and Trigg, the next we are congratulating the club for such a tough stance. "the clause" has been done to death with most, I believe, coming to the conclusion that it doesn't exist. But every now and then someone brings it up (bigfella I'm looking at you!) and it all starts again. just wait and see what the final outcome is.
 
dayton said:
I don't know who would go near this guy now. I'm surprised Sydney haven't pulled out of the race after seeing the bad press, supporters fury (from both sides) and potential detrimental effects this trade could have on their premiership winning team. I wonder if Kurt is having regrets about how he has conducted his business?
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love your avi :thumbsu:
 
Dear journalists,

Please do not waste everyone's time writing another article on Kurt Tippett if all you're going to do is regurgitate the same old "pick 23", "Jesse White" and "PSD" crap over again.
 
dayton said:
I wonder if Kurt is having regrets about how he has conducted his business?
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Im waiting for the press conference, Tippett in a Sydney polo seated next to Horse Longmire, and a journo asks him that exact question. The answer, I guarantee, will be the tried and tested, old standard...

"I just wanna play footy."
 
johnnypanther said:
Notwthstanding that i agree with the thoughts you have expressed, I do wonder what are the ramifications if we (AFC) ignore any such agreement and do indeed send him to the PSD? (ie can we be sued for damages? if the only ramification is our "integrity", i would say "stuff it", since any reasonable person and probably most of our players would support our position given what Tippett (& Sydney) have done so far.
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Agreed - hence I wonder what the enforceability of any agreement is. I reckon that's why we've been waiting for Triggy to get back before real progress and hard decisions can be made.
 

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Tex Support said:
Im waiting for the press conference, Tippett in a Sydney polo seated next to Horse Longmire, and a journo asks him that exact question. The answer, I guarantee, will be the tried and tested, old standard...

"I just wanna play footy."
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... in Sydney.

He could've played in Adelaide after all. Or Qld.
 
jenny61_99 said:
You are most welcome. o_O

Most of the crap in this thread has been over reaction to rumors and heresay. One minute we have the lynch mob to hang noble, Harper and Trigg, the next we are congratulating the club for such a tough stance. "the clause" has been done to death with most, I believe, coming to the conclusion that it doesn't exist. But every now and then someone brings it up (bigfella I'm looking at you!) and it all starts again. just wait and see what the final outcome is.
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I thought one of the points of this forum was to express peoples views/thoughts. If you dont like the "crap" thats being posted stop reading come back Friday afternoon.
 
Long time lurker first time poster.

This thread has sucked so much of my life in the past few weeks that I have been compelled to create a BF account! I have followed all 509 pages in the hope of hearing news that was about to break and have instead contented myself with the (mostly) amusing banter. I congratulate all involved for there obvious passion for AFC. It is a shame that KT didn't feel the same way

While thread has filled the footy addiction void in the DT/SC off season I can't wait for this to be over so I can move on with my life! We have a great young team and a good culture. I hope we draft some good young South Aussie's and keep our list as home grown as possible in the future.

Bring on 2013 and the 10 goal flogging with give the Swans next year.....it WILL happen!
 
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