To The Bombers

[ptw]

the flag is not yours.


I think that one of the reasons why Essendon have done so well is that everyone expects them to. "Yes we lost by 6 goals but thats OK because it was against Essendon".


Well Bugger that for a joke.

Essendon are just another side. At this stage of the year (as the ladder stands now) they have just as much chance of winning the flag as Port (or Hawthorn, or Carlton, or Brisbane). I will not accept that we are playing for 2nd spot. If you want to believe that then that is great, as it will make our victory all the more grand.

Port play Essendon in 2 weeks and I will have my money on the home team.

We will not lay down.

Bring it on !!!


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ptw

 

[Port01]

Seems to me you are trying to talk to Essendon supporters on bigfooty without it being absolutely necessary.

This is a dangerous exercise for your intelligence.

 

[KingyOrTheKing]

Yeah. They've been labelled the best team ever. What a load of horse sh*t. They've only proved themselves over one year. Thats not long enough. I won't accept anything other than a win when we play the bombers this week. No more excuses!

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by KingyOrTheKing
Yeah. They've been labelled the best team ever. What a load of horse sh*t. They've only proved themselves over one year. Thats not long enough. I won't accept anything other than a win when we play the bombers this week. No more excuses!

hardly ! We have been dominant in 99 (except for being too cocky in a prelim), 2000 and so far 2001, you idiot ! We are one of the best teams ever. If North were in Essendons shoes you would be claiming they were the best ever !

 

[Darky]

So dominant in 1999 you didn't win the flag.
So dominant in 1999 that another side (Kangaroos) won a higher percentage of matches for the year.

Dominant in 2000, granted.. and no argument with that. 2001 is not yet decided.

1 premiership (so far), and it would be folly to boast of anything more.

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Darky
So dominant you didn't win the flag.
So dominant that another side (Kangaroos) won a higher percentage of matches for the year.

Apart from the 1 prelim we were the better side for the year, minor premiership proving it, if we had have won that prelim we would have been hot favourite for the grand final

 

[mantis]

ptw
Where have you been I have missed you.
The last 4 games, you have lost 2, beaten Freo big deal, & beat the Hawks, which also isn't hard to do at the moment.
You honestly believe that form will get you to the GF? I suggest you stop drinking the water, obviously it is affecting your brain.

 

[windyhill]

Originally posted by Darky
So dominant in 1999 you didn't win the flag.
So dominant in 1999 that another side (Kangaroos) won a higher percentage of matches for the year.

Dominant in 2000, granted.. and no argument with that. 2001 is not yet decided.

1 premiership (so far), and it would be folly to boast of anything more.

Here`s 40 cents oh dark one,go ring someone,or donate to norff

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by mantis
ptw
Where have you been I have missed you.
The last 4 games, you have lost 2, beaten Freo big deal, & beat the Hawks, which also isn't hard to do at the moment.
You honestly believe that form will get you to the GF? I suggest you stop drinking the water, obviously it is affecting your brain.

If you stop looking thru one eye for a moment (just a brief moment) you will see we are a fair chance for the GF.
Every team has a slump. In our last 4 games we have lost to Carlton (who everyone sees as essendons only challenger), lost to North (who are coming along VERY nicely at the moment, and who we have never beaten), we beat Freo in our biggest ever victory, when only about 15% of people picked us to win, and we defeated richmond, another danger game.
We have also won 5 away games this year. More than any other interstate team in the league. So basically (as i dont call Essendon having an 'away game' at colonial really an away game) we have the best away record in the league.

We also have the third best attack in the leauge and the third best defence. Why wouldnt we be a chance? Not to mention we are second on the ladder.

You honestly believe that form will get you to the GF?

Sorry Mantis...didnt think our form was set in concrete and isnt changeable and that we arent allowed to improve

Dont write us off yet

 

[mantis]

macca
You just confirmed my point, you stated that you have been beaten by the Blues who are a GF contender & the Roos, so how can you lay claim to being able to make the GF

 

[Darky]

Originally posted by eastaugh36


Apart from the 1 prelim we were the better side for the year, minor premiership proving it, if we had have won that prelim we would have been hot favourite for the grand final

Can't be favourite if you don't make it.

 

[Port01]

Originally posted by mantis
macca
You just confirmed my point, you stated that you have been beaten by the Blues who are a GF contender & the Roos, so how can you lay claim to being able to make the GF

And Essendon got beaten by Carlton who are a GF contender and Brisbane, so how can they make the GF??

What super logic you have Mantis.

Reinforcing my point I made at the top of the thread.

 

[Darky]

Originally posted by windyhill

Here`s 40 cents oh dark one,go ring someone,or donate to norff

Don't take it so personally , WH.

FACT : Essendon are favourites to take out the 2001 flag.
FACT : Essendon have not won it yet.

A bit of perspective wouldn't go astray.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by mantis
macca
You just confirmed my point, you stated that you have been beaten by the Blues who are a GF contender & the Roos, so how can you lay claim to being able to make the GF

easy. Just becaus ewe lost two games we suddenly arent worthy of being called grand final contenders. Even tho you lost to Carlton and Brisbane yourself. Does that mean you cant call yourself grand final contenders?? No it doesnt because youve still won plenty of other games. Just because Port lost two games doesnt mean we cant be called pretenders. We are second on the ladder for god sake. Weve won 5 away games this year, weve won 2 out of our three games in melbourne. We won our only game for the year at the MCG where we havent played well in the past. We beat Geelong at Shell...where we had never won. We won our two games in the West. We lost to Sydney who are proving themselves as a fairly worthy contender themselves after their results in the last 4 weeks, we lost to collingwood in one of the best games of the year, we lost to essendon in round 2, and carlton in a bad game for us.

Of our 5 losses you would of marked down 4 of them as losses at the start of the year anyway.
You base our finals contention on two games when weve beaten Brisbane who everyone reckons are contenders, Adelaide who are widely tipped to storm home, Bulldogs, Hawthorn when they had only lost 1 game for the year and Richmond (who are crap but its still a win). Why should Brisbane be called contenders when they lost to us??

Plus we have proven we arent soft. 4 or 5 teams have tried roughouse tactics against us and they lost every one of them.

Your logic just doesnt work in this situation.

 

[windyhill]

Originally posted by Darky


Don't take it so personally , WH.

FACT : Essendon are favourites to take out the 2001 flag.
FACT : Essendon have not won it yet.

A bit of perspective wouldn't go astray.

Just havin` a laugh mate

 

[Darky]

Originally posted by windyhill

Just havin` a laugh mate

No wuckers, old chum. We need the 40 cents!

 

[vanders]

Originally posted by eastaugh36


Apart from the 1 prelim we were the better side for the year, minor premiership proving it, if we had have won that prelim we would have been hot favourite for the grand final

Make sure you underline those words IF and We would have

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Darky
So dominant in 1999 you didn't win the flag.
So dominant in 1999 that another side (Kangaroos) won a higher percentage of matches for the year.

Dominant in 2000, granted.. and no argument with that. 2001 is not yet decided.

1 premiership (so far), and it would be folly to boast of anything more.

As of writing this, Essendon have won 51 of their last 56 matches. I think that's a fair indication that they are one of the greatest of all time. Minor premiers for three consecutive years (no team has done that since the 50s), and odds-on favourite for a second flag in a row. EXTREMELY unlucky not to be going for a hat-trick this year after going 18-4 in 1999.

Whilst my "top spot" argument brings up an old chestnut, it DOES give an indication of the sides greatness. To finish on top of the ladder 3 years in a row is a remarkable achievement (Manchester United-esque). I don't think people realise just how good you have to be over a long period of time (51 out of 56 since midway through '99) to consistently be the best team in the comp, as we have done for three years now.

Does our dominace guarantee us a Grand Final win? No, of course not. But our dominace DOES guarantee that we are the leagues best team (does anyone seriosuly dispute it?). Whether that dominace is converted into a second straight Grand Final win, is a matter of fate, and I am fully awarre that we "could" lose on the day in an upset (as Carlton did to Melbourne yesterday)

I do get tired, however, of people, disputing our greatenss because we have only won ONE flag since the start of 1999. I mean, the most we could have won since the start of '99 is two, and we came within a point of getting to the GF that year (and would have started warm favourites to win it). So, instead, we have won "one" instead of "two", and are going for a second this year. Couple that with 51 out of our last 56, and I beleive we have EARNT the accolades of "possibly greatest ever"

I find it mildy insulting for some people to not think we are a contender for the title of greatest ever, when we have:

- Won 51 out of 56
- Will win a third minor premiership in a row (harder to do than winning the GF because it requires conssitent winning for 6 months)
- Hot favourite to win a second premiership in a row.
- Came within a point of playing of for a premeirship (after winning more games over the H&A than anyone else as usual) which we would have started warm favourites to win.

Let's hope this great team can be rewarded in September for their efforts.

 

[Darky]

Originally posted by Dan25


As of writing this, Essendon have won 51 of their last 56 matches. I think that's a fair indication that they are one of the greatest of all time. Minor premiers for three consecutive years (no team has done that since the 50s), and odds-on favourite for a second flag in a row. EXTREMELY unlucky not to be going for a hat-trick this year after going 18-4 in 1999.

Whilst my "top spot" argument brings up an old chestnut, it DOES give an indication of the sides greatness. To finish on top of the ladder 3 years in a row is a remarkable achievement (Manchester United-esque). I don't think people realise just how good you have to be over a long period of time (51 out of 56 since midway through '99) to consistently be the best team in the comp, as we have done for three years now.

Does our dominace guarantee us a Grand Final win? No, of course not. But our dominace DOES guarantee that we are the leagues best team (does anyone seriosuly dispute it?). Whether that dominace is converted into a second straight Grand Final win, is a matter of fate, and I am fully awarre that we "could" lose on the day in an upset (as Carlton did to Melbourne yesterday)

I do get tired, however, of people, disputing our greatenss because we have only won ONE flag since the start of 1999. I mean, the most we could have won since the start of '99 is two, and we came within a point of getting to the GF that year (and would have started warm favourites to win it). So, instead, we have won "one" instead of "two", and are going for a second this year. Couple that with 51 out of our last 56, and I beleive we have EARNT the accolades of "possibly greatest ever"

I find it mildy insulting for some people to not think we are a contender for the title of greatest ever, when we have:

- Won 51 out of 56
- Will win a third minor premiership in a row (harder to do than winning the GF because it requires conssitent winning for 6 months)
- Hot favourite to win a second premiership in a row.
- Came within a point of playing of for a premeirship (after winning more games over the H&A than anyone else as usual) which we would have started warm favourites to win.

Let's hope this great team can be rewarded in September for their efforts.

4776 posts of repetitive crap = 1 flag.

Read it again, Dan.

Dominant 1999, my arse. Lost to an also-ran. Didn't make the GF, and the Kangaroos had a higher win/loss %.

At no stage am I denying Essendon were dominant in 2000.

At no stage am I denying Essendon have been by far the best team of 2001 and are Premiership favourites once again.

What part of this do you fail to grasp?

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by Dan25


Minor premiers for three consecutive years (no team has done that since the 50s), and odds-on favourite for a second flag in a row. EXTREMELY unlucky not to be going for a hat-trick this year after going 18-4 in 1999.

Essendon did not win the minor premiership in 1998? And you havent won it this year yet. Dont get so far ahead of yourself Dan.

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Macca19
Essendon did not win the minor premiership in 1998? And you havent won it this year yet. Dont get so far ahead of yourself Dan.

3 games clear (virtually 4 with percentage). Are you telling me top spot isn't signed, sealed and delivered?

 

[Mr Ripper]

Oh dear. I can see where this is going.

Is it possible to iggy threads?

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Darky
Dominant 1999, my arse. Lost to an also-ran.

Dominant my arse, you say? We finished 1st, with 18-4, a game clear on top. Sounds prety domianant to me. Yes, we lost to an also-ran. So did you. You lost matches to Sydney and Gelong that year. Stop using ONE match to try and define how good a side is (anyone can lose on the day in an upset). You know damn well a sides ability, and greatness is not proved in one match. It is proved from season to season, over a long period of time.

Originally posted by Darky
What part of this do you fail to grasp?

I grasp wgat you are saying. I am just saying people, are often critical that we have "only" won one flag since the start of 1999 (the most we possibly could have won is two, and we came within a point of doing that (I beleive we would have won that GF unless the Roos could have caused an upset over us))

Our dominant form over three years now, I believe makes us one of the top couple of sides in the histoy of the game.

 

[Darky]

Originally posted by Mr Ripper
Oh dear. I can see where this is going.

Is it possible to iggy threads?

Can you program my brain not to bite either?

 

[The Hitman]

Essendon era: 1 Grand Final
1 Premiership
3 Minor Premierships (I'll give you this year)
1 Ansett Cup

What makes the Hawthorn 80's era better?

4 flags, 7 Grand Finals...in a row, add to that the '91 flag, we really have 5 flags from that era, 14 straight finals appearances.

How the hell can Essendon claim to have anywhere near the greatest side when there is the Hawthorn 80's era, the Melbourne in the 50's, the 4-peat Collingwood side...

It's the Premierships that make the greatest sides, not minor premierships, not Grand Finals, not a superior win loss record...it all comes down to that last Saturday in September to put yourself into the record books.

I would even rate the Kangaroos 90's side better...they have two cups.

Essendon are good. But not the best ever.