Toby Greene… again.

[Northernsoul74]

The whole process is a joke and an embarrassment. How can a professional sport not have a governing body with the ability to set clear rules and penalties that don’t need be to argued in a court of law setting on a weekly basis. Absolutely amateur. Ffs talk about keeping lawyers in a job.

 

[DanWA]

The whole process is a joke and an embarrassment. How can a professional sport not have a governing body with the ability to set clear rules and penalties that don’t need be to argued in a court of law setting on a weekly basis. Absolutely amateur. Ffs talk about keeping lawyers in a job.

The consistency is as bad as the actual game day umpires

 

[HairyO]

Disgraceful but exactly as expected. Manufacture a way for Buddy to get his charge reduced, manufacture a way to ensure Greene cant get out of his.

And continue to let Selwood get away with dirty acts while penalising other players who literally do the same thing.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

As expected

Selwood sends someone to Disneyland…nothing

Toby tries to win the ball…suspend him

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Disgraceful but exactly as expected. Manufacture a way for Buddy to get his charge reduced, manufacture a way to ensure Greene cant get out of his.

And continue to let Selwood get away with dirty acts while penalising other players who literally do the same thing.

Absolute farce.
And they dug even deeper today: the exact words used by the AFL

"Greene starts to shape his body in a way that shows great skill and anticipation; he's shaping to meet Dangerfield with the right side of his body. Nothing wrong with that. But he actually starts to shape his arm almost in preparation for what comes next; he gathers the ball in his left hand and then up (his right arm goes). This is a technique that was careless; it wasn't reflexive, nor did a player sneak up on him from a side. Many players flinch or brace and raise an elbow, that's not this case.
The essence of carelessness is there was a risk. He's moving in a way you cannot control but may deviate by centimetres, tens of centimetres, but you know he's going low. Those things tell you as a prudent player you can't raise your elbow because if I do, I might make contact with his neck, chin, jaw, face, eye socket. At that speed in which the contest is engaged, it need only take a few millimetres movement either way for the point of impact to change quite appreciably. That's why it's careless. The simple point is: don't engage in that contest with a raised elbow. The jury found he chose to engage in a contest with a raised elbow."


Now let me use those, and replace "Greene" with "Selwood", and replace "raised elbow" with "hip and shoulder to the head".
And remember Greene got to the ball, Selwood didn't.



"Selwood starts to shape his body in a way that shows great skill and anticipation; he's shaping to meet Taylor with the right side of his body. Nothing wrong with that. But he actually starts to shape his arm almost in preparation for what comes next; he gathers the ball in his left hand and then up (his right arm goes). This is a technique that was careless; it wasn't reflexive, nor did a player sneak up on him from a side. Many players flinch or brace for contact, that's not this case.
The essence of carelessness is there was a risk. He's moving in a way you cannot control but may deviate by centimetres, tens of centimetres, but you know he's going low. Those things tell you as a prudent player you can't execute a bump because if I do, I might make contact with his neck, chin, jaw, face, eye socket. At that speed in which the contest is engaged, it need only take a few millimetres movement either way for the point of impact to change quite appreciably. That's why it's careless. The simple point is: don't engage in that contest with a bump. The jury found he chose to engage in a contest with a bump to the head."

 

[Elixuh]

Feel sorry for Toby, my favourite player outside the Lions. In reality it is a manufactured system, but what can you do.

 

[Acinath]

How is this any difference to Bayley Fritsch

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Bayley Fritsch

Age

27

Ht

188cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.7

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.0

2star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

earlier this season? It’s the exact same movement!

 

[LukeParkerno1]

How is this any difference to Bayley Fritsch earlier this season? It’s the exact same movement!

One plays for a Melbourne side…the other is Toby Greene

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

That Toby Greene

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Toby Greene

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

G

2.3

5star

D

26.6

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

14.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.0

1star

tax sure is hard to shake off. What a disgrace. 0.12 of a second reaction time and this is the rubbish they pull out.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

That Toby Greene tax sure is hard to shake off. What a disgrace. 0.12 of a second reaction time and this is the rubbish they pull out.

Make matters worse Selwood gets off the same week

 

[Barrybran]

Make matters worse Selwood gets off the same week

Yep. Decision is correct but the Giants were right to appeal based on similar cases in the same weekend. The AFL dug their own hole on this one.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yep. Decision is correct but the Giants were right to appeal based on similar cases in the same weekend. The AFL dug their own hole on this one.

Fritch the same year too. I mean I don’t have an issue with Greene going but can we have an ounce of consistency? Said the same thing when Buddy got given a week (which we appealed). There is stuff all consistency.

 

[Colonial]

I have zero problem if that is a week as punishment.

My problem is it hasn’t been previous to Toby doing it.

Just like the Toby marking action. All of a sudden it’s made out to be an illegal action yet Jack Riewoldt did/does it as a regular occurrence. (Yes if Tobes kicks a guy in the face, 1 time and it was a dog, then he deserves punishment).

 

[Patronus]

As expected

Selwood sends someone to Disneyland…nothing

Toby tries to win the ball…suspend him

Selwood did not send anyone to Disneyland if he had he would have got three weeks minimum. Should he have got a week? maybe but the MRC grading is very injury based so he got lucky no one was injured.

Maybe you should start a campaign that all head high bumps and strikes have a starting point of one week but then buddy would have not got off last week as well.

 

[dean33]

How many times did Lynch get away with cheap shots ?

Yep when he pushed Hurley squarely in the chest he nearly broke his neck, disgrace he didn’t even get sighted.

 

[dean33]

Buddy doesnt have form ?!? Or Selwood ?!?!

They both should have got weeks this year but were protected.

Greene deserved a week as did buddy and fritsch. Selwood and buddy are protected no doubt but Toby drove his forearm into dangers throat, had to at least get a week.

 

[HairyO]

Greene deserved a week as did buddy and fritsch. Selwood and buddy are protected no doubt but Toby drove his forearm into dangers throat, had to at least get a week.

Yep. A heap of players should have been pinged. Then players wouldnt be throwing elbows.

 

[dean33]

Yep. A heap of players should have been pinged. Then players wouldnt be throwing elbows.

Fritsch and buddy no doubt should have been suspended but the afl judiciary just like the umpiring is very inconsistent, doesn’t change the fact Greene deserved a week. Can’t make another bad decision just because you’ve made bad decisions previously.

 

[Colonial]

Greene deserved a week as did buddy and fritsch. Selwood and buddy are protected no doubt but Toby drove his forearm into dangers throat, had to at least get a week.

No he didn’t have to as the previous occurrences didn’t.

 

[HairyO]

No he didn’t have to as the previous occurrences didn’t.

The point is all of them should have been pinged. But given a number werent, nor should Greene.

 

[luthor]

The point is all of them should have been pinged. But given a number werent, nor should Greene.

A simple but effective argument.

It's hard to accept that there isn't a Toby Greene tax.

A pox on the MRO and the Tribunal

 

[luthor]

Make matters worse Selwood gets off the same week

But y'know.....

Selwood is the guy you want in the trenches with you

Blah blah

The MRO and the Tribunal are so predicatable

Special consideration for the guys in the White hats and persecution for the guys wearing the Black hats

I think we all know which are which

 

[luthor]

That Toby Greene tax sure is hard to shake off. What a disgrace. 0.12 of a second reaction time and this is the rubbish they pull out.

Admittedly Toby is a quick thinker but surely forming an intent to maim an opposition player in that time frame with an action that you cleverly disguise as "reflex" would require Mensa level genius capabilities

 

[Jeff76]

Hey guys quick question, why do u think the AFL likes Selwood so much and not Greene? How does this benefit the AFL? Look forward to your answers.

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Hey guys quick question, why do u think the AFL likes Selwood so much and not Greene? How does this benefit the AFL? Look forward to your answers.

Selwood is Geelong, Geelong have so many fingers in so many AFL + media pies that it's a given.
Greene is GWS, need controversy to gain media clicks for an expansion team, and Greene provides them in spades.