It looks suss, it could be suss, it might not be suss. It's ridiculous the AFL couldn't see this being a problem. 10 jurors they have to choose from..
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It looks suss, it could be suss, it might not be suss. It's ridiculous the AFL couldn't see this being a problem. 10 jurors they have to choose from..
Give them an option, play this week and serve a 12 week suspension next season or take the week and move on.
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If you've read bigfooty, you'd know that supporters are at least as, probably more, biased than ex players. Therefroe you'd have to preclude anyone who's ever supported a club as well as anyone who has ever played for a club. Obviously this should go for all positions in the AFL - not just the tribunal, because we can't trust anyone who has ever felt any affilliation for an AFL club to make unbiased decisions.
I propose all decision making positions in the AFL to be held by the Peruvians.
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Having 2 former Collingwood players on the tribunal panel for Toby Greene is a clear conflict of interest (1 who was in the Collingwood rooms after their win in the first final).
It doesn’t matter how ethical Wakelin and Williams are. There’s a clear conflict of interest, so they should have excused themselves and other tribunal members should have been used. We all know how emotional/ bias former players can be towards the clubs they played for/ support.
It doesn’t matter how ethical Wakelin and Williams are. There’s a clear conflict of interest, so they should have excused themselves and other tribunal members should have been used. We all know how emotional/ bias former players can be towards the clubs they played for/ support.
is it possible that the game gets delay by a day or two (by the court itself). if they go to court on Thursday, would they have to make up there mind on Thursday (or is there a chance this goes until Friday).
Inconclusive and trivial
A hand very, very, very briefly appeared in the vicinity...
That is ALL any neutral person can conclude from watching that very limited sketchy video
The victim didn't fall over or act like his eyes were impacted in any sense. He stated that it didn't. Most people viewing the incident feel the same.
Having mostly Pie supporters requesting the noose for the incident is quite amusing, I'lk to a lynching party, as comical as watching Blazing Sadles
It's simple, based on this and only this incident, any other player, any day off the week, walks...
This whole incident is a circus... and a reason many sigh and get fed up with the game, there are two prelims about to take place yet what is the talk???
Christian needs to walk, he has shown a lack of neutrality on what should should have been an isolated, inconclusive, trivial incident. He failed twice on two separate incidents to make the correct decision, the Bont incident should have been a week, this one, "benefit of the doubt"
A hand very, very, very briefly appeared in the vicinity...
That is ALL any neutral person can conclude from watching that very limited sketchy video
The victim didn't fall over or act like his eyes were impacted in any sense. He stated that it didn't. Most people viewing the incident feel the same.
Having mostly Pie supporters requesting the noose for the incident is quite amusing, I'lk to a lynching party, as comical as watching Blazing Sadles
It's simple, based on this and only this incident, any other player, any day off the week, walks...
This whole incident is a circus... and a reason many sigh and get fed up with the game, there are two prelims about to take place yet what is the talk???
Christian needs to walk, he has shown a lack of neutrality on what should should have been an isolated, inconclusive, trivial incident. He failed twice on two separate incidents to make the correct decision, the Bont incident should have been a week, this one, "benefit of the doubt"
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All very true, and under the letter of the AFL rules he probably should get off.
But if you don't look at it as an isolated incident, it's pretty hard to believe that Toby Greene wasn't intentionally scraping his hand down the eye region of his opponent. Do you really want this behaviour to be permissible?
Plenty of neutrals saying Greene is guilty and copped his right whack. Also quite amusing the large number of Tiger supporters wanting Greene to be exonerated. Pretty obvious you want Greene available in the hope GWS beat Collingwood. Patently obvious you’re s**t scared of playing Pies in GF.
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Happens when you have too many demerit points......
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I assume youve been back through all previous tribunal to ensure that such a COI has never occurred before maybe even when, heaven forbid Collingwood players have been suspended? or is it only ex Collingwood players that threaten tribunal integrity?
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yeah the winners can play Granny off 2-3 day break. not a problem.
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here's another idea. cop your whack - like dozens of players have done when suspended in finals for 100+ years
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I assume the Appeal takes all of 5 minutes to uphold the appeal.
If his hand was on the chin - zero penalty
If his hand was on the nose - zero penalty
His hand was maybe near the eyes - 1 week?
Just ridiculous. Zero evidence of any damage yet its a week ?
If his hand was on the chin - zero penalty
If his hand was on the nose - zero penalty
His hand was maybe near the eyes - 1 week?
Just ridiculous. Zero evidence of any damage yet its a week ?
It was tongue in cheek mate as it depends who you are and who you play for suspensions. The AFL want certain players to play in finals, you just have to be one of them i the right colours at the right time and you could almost kill someone and get away with it.
I’d love to see a Supreme Court injunction delaying the game on the basis that the mro and tribunal are not independent. There is more evidence that 3 ex Collingwood players may have acted with bias than Toby did anything wrong.
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I’d love to see people who understand law making posts instead of this
But we can’t always get what we want
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I'd love the see the court allow the Tamil family to play, and send Toby to Christmas Island to serve his time.
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Even the angle in this video? Raked him across the eyes with his hand.
Damning angle of AFL star’s dirty act
GWS will make one last roll of the dice in a desperate bid to retain talismanic forward Toby Greene for Saturday’s AFL preliminary final against Collingwood.
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Should have been a 2-3 week penalty a couple of games ago, this incident is worth a week. Fines simply don't work for this guy.
What evidence? Dozens of instances in years gone by where tribunal decisions were adjudicated by ex players, and where the player charged ( sometimes a Collingwood player ) happens to be playing against that tribunal members team shortly afterwards.
Are you suggesting that those ex tribunal members were biased as well? Or does that just apply when tribunal members happen to have played for the Pies? The self righteous sanctimony from some on here is risible.
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The tribunal stuffed up with the Bont incident. MRO expected integrity, clearly misplaced. MRO stuffed up by not giving him 2 weeks straight up for all the s**t he pulled with Bont. MRO stuffed up by not being specific in his charging, rather than the all encompassing charge should have been a couple of specific charges and he was clearly guilty of each incident.
The crap he pulled with Bont was clearly far worse, is that why people are downplaying the nel incident?
The charge reads "unnecessary contact with the eye region". Doesnt say EYE, says eye region. Neal said he didnt feel any contact with his eye but his nose was sore afterwards. Clearly the nose seperates the eyes people. The eye region must include the nose. Otherwise you have two seperate and distinct eye regions, and a nose region, and an eyebrow area, FFS people show some common sense. When youve got 270 gamers saying on AFL 360 theyve never ever been touched on the face, or even thought about doing it, doesnt that show this to be a uniquely Toby form of intimidation and niggle?
Just like kicking people in the face and late hits on smaller blokes. Grub acts from a grub.
But history aside, he made unnecessary contact with the eye region. Clearly. Any mistake by him or unexpected movement by his victime could easily end in something catstrophic. Stamp it out ASAP. Hes guilty here. He was more guilty last week and shouldnt have played against Briz, but 1 week here is a start.
The crap he pulled with Bont was clearly far worse, is that why people are downplaying the nel incident?
The charge reads "unnecessary contact with the eye region". Doesnt say EYE, says eye region. Neal said he didnt feel any contact with his eye but his nose was sore afterwards. Clearly the nose seperates the eyes people. The eye region must include the nose. Otherwise you have two seperate and distinct eye regions, and a nose region, and an eyebrow area, FFS people show some common sense. When youve got 270 gamers saying on AFL 360 theyve never ever been touched on the face, or even thought about doing it, doesnt that show this to be a uniquely Toby form of intimidation and niggle?
Just like kicking people in the face and late hits on smaller blokes. Grub acts from a grub.
But history aside, he made unnecessary contact with the eye region. Clearly. Any mistake by him or unexpected movement by his victime could easily end in something catstrophic. Stamp it out ASAP. Hes guilty here. He was more guilty last week and shouldnt have played against Briz, but 1 week here is a start.
Exactly, what a moronic assertion that someone is jailed for a second, minor traffic offence. Like blokes that say they are unlucky to be done for DUI (on the 56th time they rolled the dice).
You’ve really got no comprehension that, outside your circle, the majority of people naturally behave ethically, are not driven by self interest but are governed by a strong set of principles/values. What you have become is a consequence of the actions you have or have not taken - your parents, teachers, employers, umpires, the female population and God have not had a set against you.
Even the angle in this video? Raked him across the eyes with his hand.
Damning angle of AFL star’s dirty act
GWS will make one last roll of the dice in a desperate bid to retain talismanic forward Toby Greene for Saturday’s AFL preliminary final against Collingwood.
Should have been a 2-3 week penalty a couple of games ago, this incident is worth a week. Fines simply don't work for this guy.
You CANNOT trust this video footage.
Aparently the camermans son is a massive Collingwood supporter.
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