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Toby Greene -- what... again?

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That footage is captivating. Clearly shows that Toby was lashing out in self-defence and may have made incidental head contact.
 

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All there on camera... and no fleeting thing -- goes on and on and on.

All the video I've seen doesn't actually show the contact to the eyes and requires people to draw conclusions. I don't doubt that was what he did or that that was his intent, but the video is inconclusive. I still expected at least a week's holiday. Another for smashing his head into the ground with a hand full of hair.
 
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All the video I've seen doesn't actually show the contact to the eyes and requires people to draw conclusions. I don't doubt that was what he did or that that was his intent, but the video is inconclusive. I still expected at least a week's holiday. Another for smashing his head into the ground with a hand full of hair.
100% agree, so will you go halves in the buying the slab I lost in my bet?
 
100% agree, so will you go halves in the buying the slab I lost in my bet?

I'd happily take a 1/2 a slab of the guy who won the bet, does that help?
 
I must have heard half a dozen commentators speak about how Toby's teammates love him.... but i've never actually heard a team mate say it.

This is a fairly unequivocal declaration of love from his captain,

"From our point of view, he's a terrific teammate, he's much loved, he's loyal - he's everything you want in a friend and a teammate."

 
Greene tried to rip out the hair of an opposition player who was pinned. He's a serial offender with bad character and no remorse because he keeps offending.

I have no doubt he was treated leniently because he's with the Giants, and the AFL intends to gift them a flag.

It happened with Sydney, although I think Brisbane succeeded by cleverly exploiting the massive handouts to the Swans (Brisbane got far less for more flags) and just being a well run club (once the League gave up on them and left them alone).

The Crows and Eagles were well enough set up that they succeeded under their own steam, but the current AFL administration is so inept they couldn't found successful clubs in West Sydney or GC.
 
Your position is that the video doesn’t prove that he eye-gouged him, therefore it proves that he didn’t eye-gouge him. Good luck with that in a courtroom.

Err... In a courtroom it would be something like... There is no accusation of eye gouging, the video evidence shows no eye gouging, a medical practioner and both players confirm there was no eye gouging... Case closed
 

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Greene tried to rip out the hair of an opposition player who was pinned. He's a serial offender with bad character and no remorse because he keeps offending.

I have no doubt he was treated leniently because he's with the Giants, and the AFL intends to gift them a flag.

It happened with Sydney, although I think Brisbane succeeded by cleverly exploiting the massive handouts to the Swans (Brisbane got far less for more flags) and just being a well run club (once the League gave up on them and left them alone).

The Crows and Eagles were well enough set up that they succeeded under their own steam, but the current AFL administration is so inept they couldn't found successful clubs in West Sydney or GC.
Brisbane and Sydney are Rugby league fortresses - the Swans were the first expansion club formed and they are STILL getting hand outs yet the league sees fit to waste our resources on a second team that will be on the drip forever.
 
Brisbane and Sydney are Rugby league fortresses - the Swans were the first expansion club formed and they are STILL getting hand outs yet the league sees fit to waste our resources on a second team that will be on the drip forever.
Can’t agree. GWS is the correct market to have expanded to - but you need to wait a generation to see the fruits of your labour.

Gold Coast on the other hand...
 
Err... In a courtroom it would be something like... There is no accusation of eye gouging, the video evidence shows no eye gouging, a medical practioner and both players confirm there was no eye gouging... Case closed
No. If it was in a courtroom it would be because there was an accusation, as there should have been in this case. The process would actually test the evidence.
 
Err... In a courtroom it would be something like... There is no accusation of eye gouging, the video evidence shows no eye gouging, a medical practioner and both players confirm there was no eye gouging... Case closed
Hopefully you can steer me to the direct quote whereby Bontempelli says he wasn’t eye gouged.
 
No. If it was in a courtroom it would be because there was an accusation, as there should have been in this case. The process would actually test the evidence.

Where did Bontempelli accuse Greene of eye gouging? I must of missed that.

Also there was evidence, video footage and a medical report, both showed no evidence of any eye gouging?
 

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Your position is that the video doesn’t prove that he eye-gouged him, therefore it proves that he didn’t eye-gouge him. Good luck with that in a courtroom.

As opposed to your argument which would be:

"Your honour, I have no proof but in my own humble opinion, I think you should find him guilty.
 
This is a fairly unequivocal declaration of love from his captain,

"From our point of view, he's a terrific teammate, he's much loved, he's loyal - he's everything you want in a friend and a teammate."


ok. So the captain says it. Fair enough. Nice research work. I'm glad that you're paying attention. Well I would still rate him a 9.5 on the Nathan Buckley FIGJAM meter and Bucks never even rated that high on his own meter......

p.s. note "he's much loved" .......heresay evidence....i'm still waiting on " i love the guy"
 
Can you steer me to the direct quote where he says he was? Because that's what you need to be accused... Not media speculation about something that "might" have happened.
You said this: “... both players confirm there was no eye gouging.” Show me?
 
No. If it was in a courtroom it would be because there was an accusation, as there should have been in this case. The process would actually test the evidence.
What happens before something gets to a hearing is that "an accuser" reviewed the "evidence" and decided it was insufficient.
ok. So the captain says it. Fair enough. Nice research work. I'm glad that you're paying attention. Well I would still rate him a 9.5 on the Nathan Buckley FIGJAM meter and Bucks never even rated that high on his own meter......

p.s. note "he's much loved" .......heresay evidence....i'm still waiting on " i love the guy"
My research was reading today's newspaper. Would you settle for a former teammate saying "I love him"?
 

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