Today I learned about capitalism

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Plenty of contrary views on this also mister cut and paste. You have your blinkers on tho. Just another cry me a river lefty.
You are also aware of course that the koch brothers scream about green tape whilst benefitting from it?

they sit on the most polluting refineries in america - on grandfathered regulations - newer less polluting refineries cant be economically built as their refineries will undercut them.

they are the scum of the earth.
 

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Always thought that good government was all about having a strong middle class. Helping or encouraging the poor to able become middle class as easily as possible and to ensure that striving to excel is rewarded.

Unfortunately greed is a problrm with Capatalism and if not reigned in inequality is the result.

Personaly in Australia the Eighties was where the balance was about right with free education, union powers lessened but still had a role and you got rewarded by doing well
Isnt the eighties known as the decade of greed?
 
Capitalism is certainly working as designed in Australia
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That last 6 years under the coalition was particularly bad
 

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Capitalism is certainly working as designed in Australia
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That last 6 years under the coalition was particularly bad
It’s called globalisation, set up under the ALP in the 80s by Hawke and Keating the selling of Australian assets, profits and jobs go off shore

Capitalism with a touch of socialism was working fine previously
 
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It’s called globalisation, set up under the ALP in the 80s by Hawke and Keating the selling of Australian assets, profits and jobs go off shore

Capitalism with a touch of socialism was working fine previously
Reagan, Thatcher and Hawke/Keating all pushed neoliberalism with their own catch phrases.

The welfare state was created as part of capitalism to keep the workers from revolting.

People like to point out how power always destroys communism or socialism but somehow capitalism is fine.
 
Reagan, Thatcher and Hawke/Keating all pushed neoliberalism with their own catch phrases.

The welfare state was created as part of capitalism to keep the workers from revolting.

People like to point out how power always destroys communism or socialism but somehow capitalism is fine.

I don't think there would be many that believe unbridled socialism or capitalism works.

We need capitalism to promote competition, hope and to allow governments to govern rather than putting themselves into a position of "conflict of interest". Capitalism is always headed to failure without regulation and socialism. Regulation mitigates the abuse of power, protection of workers, protection of the environment, protection of customers and many other important aspects of a healthy market place.

Further socialist policies mitigate the risk of those not fit to participate in a competitive market place (permanently or from time to time) and build a consumer base with purchasing power.

The pendulum swings with external and internal pressures. The 70s were a failure and the reforms of Keating and Hawke, transformed the nation into the one we enjoy today (sitting close to the top of the world). The failures were not Keating or Hawke in my opinion. They were not even Howard's, as he managed to introduce the GST and consolidate the reforms of H&K.

The failures were in the 15 year period 2007 to today, where we should have increased GST, introduced wealth taxes, reduced income taxes, increased social security and better integrated social security with participation. Add to that we should have improved social housing (Albo has announced islamic banking, so perhaps this is a start) and we should have added dental to medicare.

It's not too late but it is much harder now with all that debt with nothing to show for it.
 

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Reagan, Thatcher and Hawke/Keating all pushed neoliberalism with their own catch phrases.

The welfare state was created as part of capitalism to keep the workers from revolting.

People like to point out how power always destroys communism or socialism but somehow capitalism is fine.
Forget the theory they pushed, it’s what they legislated and did.
They set up legislation and paved the way for the sell off of Australian assets endless foreign corrupt investment. Current generation and future generations are stuff
Globalisation is different to capitalism
 
Forget the theory they pushed, it’s what they legislated and did.
They set up legislation and paved the way for the sell off of Australian assets endless foreign corrupt investment. Current generation and future generations are stuff
Globalisation is different to capitalism
It was globalisation of capitalism based on neoliberal economics.
To further concentrate the ownership of the means of production and undermine local workers rights and wages
 

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What do you think the Lima declaration what Whitlam signed and carried out by Hawke and Keating was about?

If you think it’s a conspiracy note the dates of when the CBA, CSL etc we’re privatised and floater then include the time it would take for the government to draw up legislation. Since the 70s doesn’t matter the government’s they are all the same peddling the same crap screwing the Australian citizens, including the first nations over

The more you’ll learn the more you’ll understand that the so called climate change for sage isn’t about the climate it is about controlling economies and business in the aspect for globalisation the sky rocketing omissions of China, Russia etc is alarming but nothing is said
Ah yes the old it's not bad when the west does it, but Russia / China line
 
Go nuts. The west has been reducing there omissions yet other countries are doing the opposite
Did you get banned from a thread on climate change or are you just trying to derail this thread for shits and giggles?
 
Today i learned about capitalism that wfh is a bad thing as you are less likely to hurt yourself in the home and that affects insurance companies income….

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Sounds like BS to me.
"working from home" has drastically increased the places that qualify as a workplace...ie more places where you can claim workers comp.
As if insurance companies aren't hiking up their premiums to offset the increased risk that 'working from home' brings.
 

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Did you get banned from a thread on climate change or are you just trying to derail this thread for shits and giggles?
No!

Rather hypocritical when you never answer a post directly only attempt to deflect to suit your narrative
 
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Of course they wont, in fact:

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These toads are the ones pushing it, and are advocating for QLD laws - which apparently allow kids to work at 13 - to be uniform across Australia.
 
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