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HeathComeBack said:
oh sh*t my bad i thought they were $1.10 to win the gold medal, They are $1.10 to win the group. I read the odds wrong. Ok $1.36 is not worth laying
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You could lay them at low 1.10s to win gold earlier this month but the value is obviously gone now.
 
jikost said:
Host nations usually experience the residual effects for a couple of subsequent games and this was the case for the Australian swimming team which actually peaked in Beijing with 20 medals (18 in Sydney, 15 in Athens). We've picked up 10 medals in the past 2 games.
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Swimming is lopsided though because a gun swimmer will win 4 or 5 medals themselves.

We need to hold our training camps at the Bool, only way to do well at the Olympics.

It would actually be hard to get any further away from the Olympic ideals than they have. I honestly have zero care factor for them as an adult.
 
The surface at the Tokyo Olympics for tennis will be a hard court - DecoTurf. ...the same surface they use at the US Open Grand Slam. In a way this is preparation for the slams as well....
 
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I honestly can't think of an event or a team sport where Australia are considered < $3.00 to win Gold.

The TAB has 5 events in the swimming where Australia is under evens to win Gold (4 in the women , 1 in the men). Given the nature and bias of the TAB for Australian swimmers, would it be worth opposing any of these?

Mens 400 m freestyle- Winnington to win Gold $1.95
Womens 400 m freestyle- Titmus to Win Gold $1.40
Womens 200 m backstroke- McKeown to Win gold $1.42
Womens 200 m freestyle- Titmus to Win Gold $1.45
Womens 100 m backstroke- McKeown to win Gold $1.75
 
NYRB said:
I honestly can't think of an event or a team sport where Australia are considered < $3.00 to win Gold.

The TAB has 5 events in the swimming where Australia is under evens to win Gold (4 in the women , 1 in the men). Given the nature and bias of the TAB for Australian swimmers, would it be worth opposing any of these?

Mens 400 m freestyle- Winnington to win Gold $1.95
Womens 400 m freestyle- Titmus to Win Gold $1.40
Womens 200 m backstroke- McKeown to Win gold $1.42
Womens 200 m freestyle- Titmus to Win Gold $1.45
Womens 100 m backstroke- McKeown to win Gold $1.75
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Yes, oppose all and just back the Yank. Their college system is a proven success.

Mens 400 m freestyle- Smith to win Gold $21
Womens 400 m freestyle- Ledecky to Win Gold $2.75
Womens 200 m backstroke- White to Win gold $7
Womens 200 m freestyle- Ledecky to Win Gold $3.50
Womens 100 m backstroke- Smith to win Gold $3.50
 
Germany $2.00 to win more gold medals than Australia. Surprised by this.... the Krauts always do well and have medal chances across a far wider variety of sports than Australia. They picked up 17 gold in Rio compared to Australia's 8 and haven't collected less than 40 medals (11 gold) since reunification. Australia could only manage 29 medals in Rio. If our swimming team shit the bed again, the Germans will romp this one in.
 
Money talks in an Olympics . Even though the Brits don’t pay out the gold medal winners there is a substantial amount of funding for the athletes from the lottery system .

Sort of consider there to be three tiers : 1) podium level 2) Top 8 and 3) participating at an Olympics . Getting a podium level finish Can extend to around a 36,000-60,000 pound benefit.

compare this to other countries where you are actually paid out:

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someone like a Joseph Schooling who won gold for Singapore is like a royal king now.

It might be worth looking into those countries that pay well- for gold .
 
If Mckeown and especially Titmus hold form they should be winning. Ledecky obviously a legend but can’t see any way she beats her own WR while Titmus is looking good to go past it. She almost broke the 200 WR from the supersuit era in the trials which shows she’s flying. No real value at her price but I’d be in no rush to be against.

I’d be very aware of each books T’s&C’s for any bets these games. Covid already wreaking havoc and will the entire games. Makes pricing anything near impossible this far out from events.
 
99 Problems said:
If Mckeown and especially Titmus hold form they should be winning. Ledecky obviously a legend but can’t see any way she beats her own WR while Titmus is looking good to go past it. She almost broke the 200 WR from the supersuit era in the trials which shows she’s flying. No real value at her price but I’d be in no rush to be against.

I’d be very aware of each books T’s&C’s for any bets these games. Covid already wreaking havoc and will the entire games. Makes pricing anything near impossible this far out from events.
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Over the last 3 games our Swimmers have always massively underperformed their best relative to the American's who generally jump out of the ground in the pool like they've been at the Warrnambool dunes for 6 months.

I'd definitely be pricing in Australian regression and US progression from what we have seen the last year or so
 
iluvparis said:
Over the last 3 games our Swimmers have always massively underperformed their best relative to the American's who generally jump out of the ground in the pool like they've been at the Warrnambool dunes for 6 months.

I'd definitely be pricing in Australian regression and US progression from what we have seen the last year or so
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The trials have previously been timed differently which was much smarter by the US and allowed them to peak better at the games. Both trials at the same time this year should change that a bit.

Overall I’d say there’s still a good chance the US do find another level and the aussies drop off a bit but I’d seperate Titmus from that. She’s consistently swimming at a level that would’ve challenged Ledecky in 2016 and has already beaten her at a World Champs when she was 18. It’s a big ask for Ledecky to match or possibly have to go even better than 5 years ago.
 

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99 Problems said:
The trials have previously been timed differently which was much smarter by the US and allowed them to peak better at the games. Both trials at the same time this year should change that a bit.

Overall I’d say there’s still a good chance the US do find another level and the aussies drop off a bit but I’d seperate Titmus from that. She’s consistently swimming at a level that would’ve challenged Ledecky in 2016 and has already beaten her at a World Champs when she was 18. It’s a big ask for Ledecky to match or possibly have to go even better than 5 years ago.
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I think its more about the competitive environment the Yanks grow up in compared to us rather than the timing of the trials. Our choke factor is historically massive. I mean Liesel Jones was arguably the GOAT breastroker and forgot to breath FFS
 
iluvparis said:
I think its more about the competitive environment the Yanks grow up in compared to us rather than the timing of the trials. Our choke factor is historically massive. I mean Liesel Jones was arguably the GOAT breastroker and forgot to breath FFS
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That’s true, but it definitely helped that their swimmers who qualified could go and prepare for the games when ours were trying to peak at the trials to get a swim then get up quickly again for the actual games.

We’ve definitely thrown up some who didn’t do their best at the games though. Missile and Campbell at recent games. I can’t see Titmus being one of them though.
 
any views on the 3x3 Mens Basketball?

rules slightly different to the normal version

Here are the odds to win the 3x3 Mens basketball

(Best odds from TAB, Sportsbet and Smarkets Betting Exchange):

Serbia 3
Latvia 3.50
Russia OC 7.40
Netherlands 8.40
Poland 15
Belgium 16.50
China 25
Japan 34

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surprised to not see USA competing in 3x3 mens basketball........wonder why that is?

surely they would be favs if they were competing in this version as well?
 
NYRB said:
any views on the 3x3 Mens Basketball?

rules slightly different to the normal version

Here are the odds to win the 3x3 Mens basketball

(Best odds from TAB, Sportsbet and Smarkets Betting Exchange):

Serbia 3
Latvia 3.50
Russia OC 7.40
Netherlands 8.40
Poland 15
Belgium 16.50
China 25
Japan 34

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Lol is this a real sport? JFC the olympics have totally jumped the shark - surprised there is not bonus points for dunking in the 3x3 comp
 
iluvparis said:
Lol is this a real sport? JFC the olympics have totally jumped the shark - surprised there is not bonus points for dunking in the 3x3 comp
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In 3 x3 basketball, a game ends at 21 points or after 10 minutes whichever comes first. Surely, logic suggests, you look to attempt more 2 pointers in the 3x3 version over the 1 pointer? (The equivalent of 3 pointers and 2 pointers in the normal game)
 

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if swimmers and athletic competitors are allowed to compete in multiple events eg 100 metres, 200 metres , 400 metres of athletics, what's to stop players in future competing in the normal basketball version and the 3x3 version?

it just got me thinking

My only thinking the difference in this game would be the test of your endurance but its like having T20 cricket and ODI cricket, the formats are only slightly different.
 
NYRB said:
if swimmers and athletic competitors are allowed to compete in multiple events eg 100 metres, 200 metres , 400 metres of athletics, what's to stop players in future competing in the normal basketball version and the 3x3 version?

it just got me thinking

My only thinking the difference in this game would be the test of your endurance but its like having T20 cricket and ODI cricket, the formats are only slightly different.
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I'm sure you could do it now if you could be bothered.
 
iluvparis said:
We don't pay for medals but our Olympic programs get heinous amounts of government subsidies which are also generally positively related to results.
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AIS is like the cricket academy. First to pump the money in and do it properly so had an advantage but as soon as everyone else copies that is gone. We got a bit of a trail with the women's sport as other countries couldn't gaf about women's funding but even that is mostly gone now.
 
Hamingja said:
AIS is like the cricket academy. First to pump the money in and do it properly so had an advantage but as soon as everyone else copies that is gone. We got a bit of a trail with the women's sport as other countries couldn't gaf about women's funding but even that is mostly gone now.
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Yup - outside swimming (which lets face it poor countries can't compete at) we will be forced into targeting medals in niche sports going forward like that chick who won the Modern Pentathlon last time. We've even lost our advantage in equestrian.
 

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