I hope at some point he can come back, not sure but wish him all the best
Oppo Camp Tom Boyd retires
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jathanas
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Quite possibly. Did his contract and the pressure that came with it improve this pre-existing condition? I'd say probably not.
Both can be true, they don't cancel each other out.
One could argue that being prone to depression and working in a pressure cooker environment as a marquee player is the perfect sh*t-storm.
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jmac70
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So your argument is about the “root cause” now? As if such a thing exists. Your OP was about the dangers of offering big contracts to young players, specially linked to the retirement of Boyd.
I ask if this is worthy of a thread on the Collingwood board and you link it to my stand on Aboriginal issues.
Wow Apex, that’s amazing!
Did you just hope that people would just agree with you? Or did you hope that someone like me would disagree?
jmac70
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How long was he at the Dogs?
Apex36
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Because Buddy was acquired as a restricted free agent. The mammoth contract he was given couldn’t possibly be matched. The AFL only signed off on such an offer with those conditions, to avoid clubs making stupid crazy long term FA contracts that couldn’t be matched, but could simply be voided eventually by the player retiring. Given Boyd was a trade, shorter term than Buddy’s, and Boyd was young enough that he would require another contract before the end of his career (barring this inforseen circumstance), such measures weren’t required.
jmac70
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Point is, we don’t know the cause of his depression.
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The only person that seems to be arguing here is you. Every media outlet is linking the weight of expectation that came with his contract with his mental health issues. It’s not unreasonable for me to point out that such a contract could become a burden, or exacerbate any pre-existing issues.
No, I’m just pointing out that you’ve made plenty of s**t threads on this board that aren’t even football related, let alone Collingwood related. Stop being a hypocrite.
I’m not asking anyone to agree with me. I’m trying to open up a discussion about mental health, and the impact that clubs can have on that when handing out irresponsible contracts to kids. For some reason you’ve taken exception to that. Each to their own I guess.
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If you're only going to play one good game then that's the time to do it.
jmac70
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I’ve no idea what is causing his depression. So would not presume to base a thread on it.
jmac70
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I’m open to discussing that this is more complicated than footy, it is certainly a significant factor, but I think there are likely to be many other equally significant factors.
jmac70
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It’s not any kind of reminder to Grundy.
JB1975
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Your point is fair enough, but given that Boyd has made a very expensive and rather uncommon decision to cut footy from his life at the relatively young age of 23, it seems reasonable to suggest that footy and its related pressures have been weighing heavily upon him.
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I think it’s safe to assume it’s a very significant factor if he’s willing to walk away from millions of dollars and the game he grew up loving because he doesn’t enjoy it anymore.
It’s a stark contrast to Fasolo, who stated that walking away from footy wouldn’t have helped him at all when he revealed his depression.
jmac70
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I disagree. I think it’s likely there are deeper causes. Hopefully he can overcome it, or at least learn to cope.
JB1975
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We're all entitled to speculate, but it should be pointed out that your suggestion of 'deeper causes' is more speculative than any suggestion that football has contributed to Tom Boyd's decision to give up the game.
jmac70
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Check out the OP and get back to me.
Yes. He was a number one draft pick gone from the game at 23. I am out of the country and would not have known he had retired but for this thread. Gave me something to cogitate along with Bob Hawke's death which I picked up on the ABC overseas network.
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Afl 360 showed a interview prior to be drafted. In it he says that in the beginning football was a release from school but it had then changed to school being a release from footy.
The pressures of footy weighed on him very early on
The pressures of footy weighed on him very early on
