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Serious question for Dogs fans. Boyd does have some kind of performance clause built in surely? As in play a certain number of senior games each season to get the full amount? Your team would not be paying him the full amount to play in the VFL surely not?
Can't be certain, but the base salary is apparently in the vicinity of $650-700k if what I heard is correct.

Still a lot to be paying a developing guy, but it's another player or two's salary under the cap every year.
 
if two of my employees went out, and had a fight/scuffle, and one needed stitches, id be pissed off.
if players were hanging shit on him for a ge money hes on, and he cracked it, there are real issues there....
Yeah massive issues :$

How is any of this at all surprising? He's on mega bucks for doing **** all so far but having the right body size and potentially being a great full forward.

Of course it's going to rustle some feathers, sportspeople are human beings just like you and me, I kinda expected him to be getting some flack for the coin he's on at his age, if he wasn't that would be more odd than him getting a little ribbing from his teammates.

He probably has heard enough of it, he's probably frustrated that he's not performing at a level where he wants to be but he is still only 20 he's got his whole career ahead of him to get it right, he'll be given every opportunity to do so because full forwards of his size and ability are as rare as hens teeth and the most valuable commodity in the game.

You need a good forward and focal point to win grand finals, Bulldogs have learnt that during their last crack at the flag so they went and got one, I don't see the problem here.

All I see are jealous haters because their team didn't have the balls to go and get him and are stuck without the most valuable commodity in the game, it's simple.

I just can't wait until he matures like all full forwards/big men take time to do and take the game by the throat and we win a flag or two simply because we have a good full forward with a great team to go with it.

Everyone in the media will be saying how it was a stroke of genius and why aren't more clubs doing this and Melbourne, Norf and st. Kilda fans on here will be melting hard with egg on there face.
 
Here we go...

Okay, if you know something vital to the discussion here, then tell us all about it.

No, nothing vital. Boyd starts a fight with his best mate, and is still a top bloke, better? Of course his teammates see him as an absolute ripping fella, better?
 

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Something reeks at the Bulldogs. Some serious culture issues and it stems from having a coach who has no control over his emotions. Good on Barrett for exposing the hypocrisy.

Oh, dear.

Okay, okay we apologise for getting so many free kicks right.in.front.of.you. Fair enough?


Speaking of uncontrolled emotions, I was offended by your coach and his whinging after the game. Where's my apology?
 
No, nothing vital. Boyd starts a fight with his best mate, and is still a top bloke, better? Of course his teammates see him as an absolute ripping fella, better?

Doesn't sound like inside information from "contacts".

Can you give us something more substantial - something, umm, better? Better?
 
Dogs play Saints in 3 weeks. Here's hoping he's back in the team because I want to read that match day thread.

It will be a fairly predictable thread. Last time we played we won by ten goals and Boyd kicked 3, yet every second post was about Boyd being a spud.
 
Bulldogs supporters are getting more defensive than a Ross Lyon game plan.

The stupidity in their comments is ignoring the fact their club made this public, not the media or opposition rumours. If it's no big deal then why did the Bulldogs make it public and indefinitely suspend their players?
 
I'm not sure about this "not liked in the playing group" stuff, I see him often out with them having meals and they all seem to get along including Tom.

PS: Can someone explain this inate need for Roos and Dogs supporters to wallow in each other's misery at any opportunity??
 
Yeah massive issues :$

How is any of this at all surprising? He's on mega bucks for doing **** all so far but having the right body size and potentially being a great full forward.

Of course it's going to rustle some feathers, sportspeople are human beings just like you and me, I kinda expected him to be getting some flack for the coin he's on at his age, if he wasn't that would be more odd than him getting a little ribbing from his teammates.

He probably has heard enough of it, he's probably frustrated that he's not performing at a level where he wants to be but he is still only 20 he's got his whole career ahead of him to get it right, he'll be given every opportunity to do so because full forwards of his size and ability are as rare as hens teeth and the most valuable commodity in the game.

You need a good forward and focal point to win grand finals, Bulldogs have learnt that during their last crack at the flag so they went and got one, I don't see the problem here.

All I see are jealous haters because their team didn't have the balls to go and get him and are stuck without the most valuable commodity in the game, it's simple.

I just can't wait until he matures like all full forwards/big men take time to do and take the game by the throat and we win a flag or two simply because we have a good full forward with a great team to go with it.

Everyone in the media will be saying how it was a stroke of genius and why aren't more clubs doing this and Melbourne, Norf and st. Kilda fans on here will be melting hard with egg on there face.
Lol that's a load of biased dribble are the Saints going to be terrible because McCartin is only getting paid market value? Also you talk about the premierships Boyd will win you but what's that age old saying "forwards sell members defenders win premiership".
 

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Lol that's a load of biased dribble are the Saints going to be terrible because McCartin is only getting paid market value? Also you talk about the premierships Boyd will win you but what's that age old saying "forwards sell members defenders win premiership".
Yeah and we have got close to the best defence in the league, majority of them are kids too, aints fans are just unhappy because Bulldogs will win a flag before them. ;)
 
The worth or otherwise of the Boyd trade will not be known until 2018 at the earliest - expecting anything significant from a 20yo KP forward who is 200cms tall is folly and every rational person knows this. The latest shenanigans do not change this timeline.

The contract has obviously not borne fruit as yet but it was never going to at this point - by all means label this a bust in 2 years time if the same level of output is being offered up by Boyd. He will have to wear some criticism but he's a big boy and can handle it - Tippett and Scully were subjected to the same treatment for underperforming on fat contracts so it is to be expected that Boyd will as well.

Barrett is irrelevant white noise - he is pissed off that the Dogs beat him to the story. He has a problem with Beveridge - won't be the first or last scribe who doesn't get along with a senior coach, but it puts his constant and boring jibes at Beveridge and the Dogs into context. Also for a supposed big news breaker he breaks bugger-all stories of note, and he comprehensively failed to do his job once again in this instance. You can see the anger dripping from the words in his latest article at failing to break this story - a piss weak review of already existing news doesn't cut the mustard and he knows it.
 
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Bulldogs supporters are getting more defensive than a Ross Lyon game plan.

The stupidity in their comments is ignoring the fact their club made this public, not the media or opposition rumours. If it's no big deal then why did the Bulldogs make it public and indefinitely suspend their players?
Leave them alone..they are just happy for people to be actually talking about their club
 
Yeah massive issues :$

How is any of this at all surprising? He's on mega bucks for doing **** all so far but having the right body size and potentially being a great full forward.

Of course it's going to rustle some feathers, sportspeople are human beings just like you and me, I kinda expected him to be getting some flack for the coin he's on at his age, if he wasn't that would be more odd than him getting a little ribbing from his teammates.

He probably has heard enough of it, he's probably frustrated that he's not performing at a level where he wants to be but he is still only 20 he's got his whole career ahead of him to get it right, he'll be given every opportunity to do so because full forwards of his size and ability are as rare as hens teeth and the most valuable commodity in the game.

You need a good forward and focal point to win grand finals, Bulldogs have learnt that during their last crack at the flag so they went and got one, I don't see the problem here.

All I see are jealous haters because their team didn't have the balls to go and get him and are stuck without the most valuable commodity in the game, it's simple.

I just can't wait until he matures like all full forwards/big men take time to do and take the game by the throat and we win a flag or two simply because we have a good full forward with a great team to go with it.

Everyone in the media will be saying how it was a stroke of genius and why aren't more clubs doing this and Melbourne, Norf and st. Kilda fans on here will be melting hard with egg on there face.

It's a bit early to be claiming Boyd will be a good full forward, at the moment he's struggling just to get a game at AFL level.
 
I'm not sure about this "not liked in the playing group" stuff, I see him often out with them having meals and they all seem to get along including Tom.

PS: Can someone explain this inate need for Roos and Dogs supporters to wallow in each other's misery at any opportunity??
Nah, the whole list hates Tom and he hates them. Only time he leaves the home for a meal (isn't often, he's a big mummy's boy) is to have lunch with Liam Pickering.
 
If it's no big deal then why did the Bulldogs make it public and indefinitely suspend their players?
In this age of the known ramifications of the cowards punch, the Bulldogs absolutely did the right thing by making this public and denouncing the actions of the players, in particular Boyd. Clearly they are close mates and there is no player division (much to the chagrin of Barrett and his bottom-feeder ilk) but that is not the point.

Such a public dressing down could well be the making of Boyd.
 

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Something reeks at the Bulldogs. Some serious culture issues and it stems from having a coach who has no control over his emotions. Good on Barrett for exposing the hypocrisy.
Reigning 3peat coach Clarkson once punched a wall during a game.
 
In this age of the known ramifications of the cowards punch, the Bulldogs absolutely did the right thing by making this public and denouncing the actions of the players, in particular Boyd. Clearly they are close mates and there is no player division (much to the chagrin of Barrett and his bottom-feeder ilk) but that is not the point.

Such a public dressing down could well be the making of Boyd.
Yes, "clearly". :D
 
Can't be certain, but the base salary is apparently in the vicinity of $650-700k if what I heard is correct.

Still a lot to be paying a developing guy, but it's another player or two's salary under the cap every year.

Way off. Minimum match payment is $3600 a game. Bit of a gap there to what he is getting.
 
Bulldogs supporters are getting more defensive than a Ross Lyon game plan.

The stupidity in their comments is ignoring the fact their club made this public, not the media or opposition rumours. If it's no big deal then why did the Bulldogs make it public and indefinitely suspend their players?

Looks like the story was about to break so they tried to jump the gun. Their supporters are getting used to lapping the bs their club feeds them.
 

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