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Tom Boyd

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Patton hasn't been great, but he has also missed 2 1/2 years of footy with knee injuries, so he's effectively at the same stage in his development as Boyd, despite being two years older.
But Patton's 2-3 years ahead in strength - especially given the time he would have spent in the gym - and both of their games are, or will be, built around strength. Whilst Tom's body shape has changed dramatically over the last 18 months, IMO he's still a long way off being strong enough to do what he would want to do.
 
This was posted on the dogs thread:

First 3 AFL Years
Tom Boyd ( so far) 28 games 30 goals.
Josh Kennedy (Eagles ) 29 games 18 goals
Tom Lynch (GC) 38 Games 35 goals
Tom Hawkins (Geel) 43 Games 59 goals
Jack Riewoldt (RIC) 46 games 57 goals
Might want to include some players who probably had similar stats that turned out to be duds too, so that the list isn't biased.
Jay Neagle
Liam Jones
Jack Anthony
Henry Playfair
Charlie Gardiner

No doubt plenty more. He could turn out to belong in either at this stage. Certainly not obvious that he'll be a star like it was with the likes of Cameron or Hogan.
 
Might want to include some players who probably had similar stats that turned out to be duds too, so that the list isn't biased.
Jay Neagle
Liam Jones
Jack Anthony
Henry Playfair
Charlie Gardiner

No doubt plenty more. He could turn out to belong in either at this stage. Certainly not obvious that he'll be a star like it was with the likes of Cameron or Hogan.
What's your take on Hogan this year. I love him, but each time I've watched him this year, he's underwhelmed me. But I don't watch him as closely as you would.
 
What's your take on Hogan this year. I love him, but each time I've watched him this year, he's underwhelmed me. But I don't watch him as closely as you would.
Hardly underwhelming
Averaging:
10 kicks
5 handballs
@ 67.3% efficiency
7 marks
2.4 goals
1.6 tackles
2 inside 50s
0.6 goal assists

Compare that to say lynch
10 k
4 h
@ 68.8%
7 m
3.2 g
1.7 T
2 i50s
1 assist

Everyone seems to be raving about lynch (deservedly). Hard to call hogan underwhelming from that
 

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Hardly underwhelming
Averaging:
10 kicks
5 handballs
@ 67.3% efficiency
7 marks
2.4 goals
1.6 tackles
2 inside 50s
0.6 goal assists

Compare that to say lynch
10 k
4 h
@ 68.8%
7 m
3.2 g
1.7 T
2 i50s
1 assist

Everyone seems to be raving about lynch (deservedly). Hard to call hogan underwhelming from that
Yeah fair enough, each time I've seen him it has seemed his competitive spirit was a bit off. Maybe I haven't seen the best bits :) :thumbsu:
 
I'm with a few others that said they don't hate boyd. Every 19 year old would love the money that dogs offered.
But when you sign a contract as big as that he did, you take the criticism that comes with it. Yeah sure he's young and developing, but until he starts playing like a million dollar man he will continue to be maligned
 
What's your take on Hogan this year. I love him, but each time I've watched him this year, he's underwhelmed me. But I don't watch him as closely as you would.
As DemonTim said, statistically better than last year, maybe people were expecting a lot more based on his superb first full season. He's easily frustrated, but then when you literally have to get your jumper torn to shreds (see the weekends game) to get a free when 3 defenders are all over you who can blame him.
 
I'm with a few others that said they don't hate boyd. Every 19 year old would love the money that dogs offered.
But when you sign a contract as big as that he did, you take the criticism that comes with it. Yeah sure he's young and developing, but until he starts playing like a million dollar man he will continue to be maligned
... and if you listen to word on the street Tom Boyd like nothing more then Tom Boyd.

He has a lot of maturing to do if he is to become a real player.
 
... and if you listen to word on the street Tom Boyd like nothing more then Tom Boyd.

He has a lot of maturing to do if he is to become a real player.
Since he's got 7 million guaranteed in the bank, he may not care too much about being a real player
 
This was posted on the dogs thread:

First 3 AFL Years
Tom Boyd ( so far) 28 games 30 goals.
Josh Kennedy (Eagles ) 29 games 18 goals
Tom Lynch (GC) 38 Games 35 goals
Tom Hawkins (Geel) 43 Games 59 goals
Jack Riewoldt (RIC) 46 games 57 goals


Half as good as Hawkins ?
 
Might want to include some players who probably had similar stats that turned out to be duds too, so that the list isn't biased.
Jay Neagle
Liam Jones
Jack Anthony
Henry Playfair
Charlie Gardiner

No doubt plenty more. He could turn out to belong in either at this stage. Certainly not obvious that he'll be a star like it was with the likes of Cameron or Hogan.

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18 games 25 goals
 
As DemonTim said, statistically better than last year, maybe people were expecting a lot more based on his superb first full season. He's easily frustrated, but then when you literally have to get your jumper torn to shreds (see the weekends game) to get a free when 3 defenders are all over you who can blame him.

Think Hogan's highs this year haven't been quite as good as last year, but people are still expecting too much of him. Clearly a gun but will take time (as all KPF's do) to get the consistent output at the lower end of his performances. Fantastic player to watch when playing well.... Wish Boyd had the same strut about him....
 
Might want to include some players who probably had similar stats that turned out to be duds too, so that the list isn't biased.
Jay Neagle
Liam Jones
Jack Anthony
Henry Playfair
Charlie Gardiner

No doubt plenty more. He could turn out to belong in either at this stage. Certainly not obvious that he'll be a star like it was with the likes of Cameron or Hogan.
What ones of those are key forwards ....???
 

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18 games 25 goals

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15 games 13 goals
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15 games 13 goals
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And all on 20% of the cost of one Thomas Boyd. Looking at it like that we have a beast :P
 
And all on 20% of the cost of one Thomas Boyd. Looking at it like that we have a beast :p

The wags isn't relevant to what was being discussed which was basically whether a key forward who isn't a gun at 20 should be written off.
 
The wags isn't relevant to what was being discussed which was basically whether a key forward who isn't a gun at 20 should be written off.

Stringer and Bontempelli could go down to full forward and both do better jobs to be frank, they are the ones who should be sleeping on piles of green notes ;)
 
Stringer and Bontempelli could go down to full forward and both do better jobs to be frank, they are the ones who should be sleeping on piles of green notes ;)

They are probably happy being in a side that's 11-4 and third on the ladder despite being as young and inexperienced as sides playing off in battles for tenth spot ;)
 
They are probably happy being in a side that's 11-4 and third on the ladder despite being as young and inexperienced as sides playing off in battles for tenth spot ;)

Heh true true, but they would probably be even happier in brown and gold or red and white for that matter ;)
 

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Think Hogan's highs this year haven't been quite as good as last year, but people are still expecting too much of him. Clearly a gun but will take time (as all KPF's do) to get the consistent output at the lower end of his performances. Fantastic player to watch when playing well.... Wish Boyd had the same strut about him....
I think some people even some in the media forget Hogan has played 36 games and kicked 83 goals. He also seems to be spending more time up the ground this year. Not every week though mind you. In fact his even gathered a few possessions in the back half. His work rate is immense. He also cops the number one defender every week. Wait until his played 50+ games and has another key forward up there with him.
 
... and if you listen to word on the street Tom Boyd like nothing more then Tom Boyd.

He has a lot of maturing to do if he is to become a real player.
Since he's got 7 million guaranteed in the bank, he may not care too much about being a real player
His interviews have a bit of "me, me, me" about them. I suppose it's more interesting than rattling off cliches about the boys and the four points, but he does come across as a little self-absorbed. I think he did a promo for Nike or Under Armour before he was drafted which was very NBA-like in the focus on the athlete, which we don't usually see over here.

Don't think his commitment has ever been in question, though. He's determined to be a great player and trains as such.
 
Stringer and Bontempelli could go down to full forward and both do better jobs to be frank, they are the ones who should be sleeping on piles of green notes ;)
You're the shittest troll on bigfooty. How did I know that when I went on the Tom Boyd thread on the main board that your pathetic comments would be on here? Just as bad as your posts on every Bulldogs game day thread.
 
You're the shittest troll on bigfooty. How did I know that when I went on the Tom Boyd thread on the main board that your pathetic comments would be on here? Just as bad as your posts on every Bulldogs game day thread.

And you are the king of hyperbole because I dont recall posting on the Dogs vs Hawks thread, Dogs vs Crows, Dogs vs Swans thread etc. So I may be shit but you are just an idiot ;)
Never mind too that I picked you to beat the Swans in the tipping thread, nah I am 100% negative towards your team and every player and every fan who ever lived. ***wit!
If you want people to leave poor Thomas alone maybe convince him to renegotiate his contract then maybe you can pick up a young backman to replace Morris/Murphy/Boyd sometime soon. Otherwise deal with the same mockery Lance Franklins contract receives.

You have to be second most negative Dogs poster on this site, nobody supplants ManoFClay but you straight out ignore my jokes or compliments about your team and go right for the negative every time. Get a life seriously.....

PS Shittest troll? Please. ManoFClay once said Ryan Griffen would have been a St Kilda great up there with Lockett, Harvey, Baldock, Stewart etc, so I am an amateur compared to that guy ;)
 
And you are the king of hyperbole because I dont recall posting on the Dogs vs Hawks thread, Dogs vs Crows, Dogs vs Swans thread etc.

;)

Congratulations from holding yourself back from not posting in three of our game threads. What about the other 13 that you've posted in though?
Pretty ironic that those three games you chose not to post in were three of the best games we've played all year though.
 

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