Recommitted Tom De Koning [Signed until 2025]

[CatToTheFuture]

Is Amartey not that player?

If the Swans are asking TDK to be playing forward I'd be asking Amartey if he likes surfing at Bells

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Definitely easy trades for players that the MC considers a sure-fire impact to the list like Tuohy, Hendo, etc.

Where those players have questions on their impact we have played hardball or walked away entirely, like Steven, Deledio etc.

It just depends whether you think TDK is a walk up start to the best 22. I think he'll spend a year behind Stanley, then he'll be competing with Neale, Conway, SDK, who are all a reasonable shot at being better.

For that reason I think he's in the secondary category. He's worth a punt, but don't bet the house.

If Cats rated him how you rate him, they wouldn't even be chasing him and they'd be paying him less than 400k. I think they have expectations, thus the interest. Steven and Deledio were great players in their heyday but were on the downhill slide age wise.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Is Amartey not that player?

Absolutely. Maybe they want two of them rotating between ruck and forward. Not sure where McLean fits there either. I can't guess why there is interest, but all reports say there is.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If Cats rated him how you rate him, they wouldn't even be chasing him and they'd be paying him less than 400k. I think they have expectations, thus the interest. Steven and Deledio were great players in their heyday but were on the downhill slide age wise.

There's 500-550k chasing and 800k chasing. They are both "chasing" but are not the same thing

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Apprently essendon is willing to offer 7 years

Hope not he's not worth that much

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Apprently essendon is willing to offer 7 years

Hope not

No like seriously, are these list managers on crack? I've never seen media reports that are so completely out of whack with what a player has actually shown...

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

No like seriously, are these list managers on crack? I've never seen media reports that are so completely out of whack with what a player has actually shown...

Happy to offer to 5 on good money but not 7 thats ridiculous for potential

 

[Footy Smarts]

I hadn't really factored in the fact that Wells had stepped back. I don't know if easy trades was a Wells thing or a Cats philosophy.

We are in a weird spot in that TDK could be a great player and talls do take quite a while to show their greatness. Pretty sure this year was the year that TDK needed to step up if he were to come close to the trajectory that Max Gawn took for example. So do we want to be stuck with potential that may only come good if they leave us, never come good, or come good if we have patience? This year, we have devalued all of our player currency but fortunately we do have some exhibition of attributes to go off.

I mean, I could see TDK going for an early second because we need to free up cap space and he hasn't shown he will be a tall forward or a first ruck yet. We have so many other positions to fill. I think he will flourish in Geelong's environment. I think he will struggle staying with us.

We watch with interest ...

We've shown we don't want to trade our future 1st rounder recently. That would've got the deal done for O Henry but we pushed back hard not to do it. I think we know our older guys are on the precipice and that could be a top 10 pick if things go badly. If we weren't willing to risk a future 1st for Henry I'd be staggered if we were for TDK.

If he nominates Geelong we will try to come to a mutually beneficial arrangement but unless we win the flag again or go close I highly doubt it involves a first rounder on our end. More likely it involves our future 2nd plus some steak knives to try and bump that up to an earlier 2nd rounder either this year or next. Or we do something that helps you bring in a player you want like we did with Collingwood and Tom Mitchell.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Happy to offer to 5 on good money but not 7 thats ridiculous for potential

Could get real awkward in like year 3

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Could get real awkward in like year 3

Could get real awkward in year 1 but im all for it if we get a good pick in return

 

[HirdyLannister]

Apprently essendon is willing to offer 7 years

Hope not he's not worth that much

Hope not, we have Bryan who is a better player.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

We've shown we don't want to trade our future 1st rounder recently. That would've got the deal done for O Henry but we pushed back hard not to do it. I think we know our older guys are on the precipice and that could be a top 10 pick if things go badly. If we weren't willing to risk a future 1st for Henry I'd be staggered if we were for TDK.

If he nominates Geelong we will try to come to a mutually beneficial arrangement but unless we win the flag again or go close I highly doubt it involves a first rounder on our end. More likely it involves our future 2nd plus some steak knives to try and bump that up to an earlier 2nd rounder either this year or next. Or we do something that helps you bring in a player you want like we did with Collingwood and Tom Mitchell.

All I can say is that when I have Geelong and Carlton supporters disagreeing with me, I must be getting close to the value.

 

[Footy Smarts]

All I can say is that when I have Geelong and Carlton supporters disagreeing with me, I must be getting close to the value.

I think you're not far off. I just don't think Geelong is as willing to part with a future 1st given our list demographics than back when we had Selwood, Danger and Hawkins still in their prime years.

It definitely won't be "here's our future 2nd rounder" and that's it either.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

All I can say is that when I have Geelong and Carlton supporters disagreeing with me, I must be getting close to the value.

Can I ask who your list manager is?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

All I can say is that when I have Geelong and Carlton supporters disagreeing with me, I must be getting close to the value.

There is an ocean between the shallow ends on the east and west pacific

 

[Ants]

Swans would be also looking at TDK as a forward to pair with McDonald. They like their Tippett types.

Is there any real evidence he can play as a forward?

No like seriously, are these list managers on crack? I've never seen media reports that are so completely out of whack with what a player has actually shown...

I suspect it is more the journalists are on crack...

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Absolutely. Maybe they want two of them rotating between ruck and forward. Not sure where McLean fits there either. I can't guess why there is interest, but all reports say there is.

Amartey is lazy and has never rocked up to pre season fit and ready to go. Yep has some obvious attributes but well known deficiencies. Neither he nor TDK show much semblance of Footy IQ.

Not happy for my Club to overpay either.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

There's 500-550k chasing and 800k chasing. They are both "chasing" but are not the same thing

Absolutely, but one wonders why there is any chase at all if he is behind Stanley and the Cats feel that Neale, Conway and SDK could be better options.

 

[TheBoss]

Why would anyone trade a first round pick for a guy that has six years in the system and is not even the first choice ruckman at this club?

A pick in the 30-40s would be commensurate with his value.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Absolutely, but one wonders why there is any chase at all if he is behind Stanley and the Cats feel that Neale, Conway and SDK could be better options.

Could be.

And Stanley has only one more year in him at this rate. If that.

 

[STPer18]

What would Carlton be chucking in alongside big Tommy? Down here at Geelong the way trades work is we get your player AND your top draft pick.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I’ve already stated what I think he’s worth.

At this stage, a 24 year old Rhys Stanley is a very reasonable comparison in terms of value.

Thats true but rhys didnt cost a high first rounder though like many posters are suggesting here (it was p21 and we got 59 back).

 

[Jeremias]

Thats true but rhys didnt cost a high first rounder though like many posters are suggesting here (it was p21 and we got 59 back).

It was a late 1st round pick with a late pick coming back.

I said that should be his value months ago, and I stand by it.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

It was a late 1st round pick with a late pick coming back.

I said that should be his value months ago, and I stand by it.

I'd think that's probably within reason. I just don't know that we end up with a late first this year. We currently hold pick 11 with the hardest run home and our whole first rotation midfield yet to return.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It was a late 1st round pick with a late pick coming back.

I said that should be his value months ago, and I stand by it.

Technically it was actually an end of first round compo pick (with a late 3rd rounder back) but i take your point.