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Can someone explain our fascination with 192 cm backmen that can't play key position? We have Litherland too.

It's like we trade for them then realise, nope he's too short, or nope, he's tall enough but not quick enough. I've probably got it wrong but that's how it seems to me.
 
Is his manager the same Tim Hazell who played a few games for us?

Hmmm

The very same

Can someone explain our fascination with 192 cm backmen that can't play key position? We have Litherland too.

It's like we trade for them then realise, nope he's too short, or nope, he's tall enough but not quick enough. I've probably got it wrong but that's how it seems to me.

Litherland is miles off. Gillies can play round 1
 
Can someone explain our fascination with 192 cm backmen that can't play key position? We have Litherland too.

It's like we trade for them then realise, nope he's too short, or nope, he's tall enough but not quick enough. I've probably got it wrong but that's how it seems to me.

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Is his manager the same Tim Hazell who played a few games for us?

Hmmm

Same Tim Hazell from the same Hobart all boys school Chunky......

No, your not getting Gillies....he's got too much upside and we 'kindly' facilitated Laidler getting to Carlton already - amongst a shit load of other good second tier players - we are not a charity.
 
Same Tim Hazell from the same Hobart all boys school Chunky......

No, your not getting Gillies....he's got too much upside and we 'kindly' facilitated Laidler getting to Carlton already - amongst a shit load of other good second tier players - we are not a charity.

You've got your 4* flags in 5 years years already, time to spread them around

*;)
 
Honestly cant see why we want him... only reason i can think that we're into him and boumann is that Lisle is gone...

Annoying because if you lined up all 3 , Lisle would easily be the one I'd choose.

Plus we're gonna end up with a shit round 2 pick for him!!
 
Can we just give up with the KPD crap. It is Shoenmakers. He is big enough, fast enough and will be good enough. If he's not it is Lilse. If he's not it is Rough.

Gillies has shown nothing to sugggest he is better than either Shoenmakers or Lilse. Hooker is a spud as is every other 2nd/3rd tier tall backman being thrown around. Surely trawling through all the other clubs scraps is not the answer?

If we could get Frawly or Taylor or Hurley or the like then bring it on but it is never going to happen and even if it did it would cost too much.
 

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Can we just give up with the KPD crap?

Gillies has shown nothing to sugggest he is better than either Shoenmakers or Lilse. Hooker is a spud as is every other 2nd/3rd tier tall backman being thrown around. Surely trawling through all the other clubs scraps is not the answer?

If we could get Frawly or Taylor or Hurley or the like then bring it on but it is never going to happen and even if it did it would cost too much.

Totally agree.
 
Hawks trade renouf and ladson for pick 33 and pick 51
hawks then trade pick 33 and pick 51 to cats for gillies and if they dont agree throw in lisle :) a kpf

Ahh , no.

You have set what a potential player is worth. He was not contracted. Gillies is and unless the deal is right , he will not be going anywhere. 33 & 51 is just to late.

You have apparently offered him 300G a year , has to be R1.
 
can you ever remember when Geelong traded something good to us
it is very far between

Back at you. Who was the last we got of you , David Loats? Not interested in any suspect , injury ridden players no matter the potential.

I really don't see how this deal gets done unless you can trade someone to GWS , they have all the picks.
 
Can we just give up with the KPD crap. It is Shoenmakers. He is big enough, fast enough and will be good enough. If he's not it is Lilse. If he's not it is Rough.

Gillies has shown nothing to sugggest he is better than either Shoenmakers or Lilse. Hooker is a spud as is every other 2nd/3rd tier tall backman being thrown around. Surely trawling through all the other clubs scraps is not the answer?
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Can we just give up with the KPD crap. It is Shoenmakers. He is big enough, fast enough and will be good enough. If he's not it is Lilse. If he's not it is Rough.

Gillies has shown nothing to sugggest he is better than either Shoenmakers or Lilse. Hooker is a spud as is every other 2nd/3rd tier tall backman being thrown around. Surely trawling through all the other clubs scraps is not the answer?

If we could get Frawly or Taylor or Hurley or the like then bring it on but it is never going to happen and even if it did it would cost too much.

Have you seen Shoenmakers & Lisle play? Shoenmakers got beaten easily. Lisle did not play that much but lacks pace.

I think we do need a KPP.

Can someone tell me how St Kilda got Saad (best VFL player) who kicked 50 goals and another small fwd for virtually nothing. They gave pick 20 to GWS and got pick 25.

If going by that, we should have got
a) Tim Mohr- best KPP in VFL (195 cm, 98Kg), Full back for HFC, has speed and good in the air and kick 60 metres
b) Saad- best VFL player, kicked 50 goals

given our 1st round pick and got 2nd round pick from GWS.

That would have solved our full back and small forward problem. Then we would not be chasing campbell of Nth Melb and as far as full backs, well there isn't anyone to chase around for that. Gillies- Geelong is too short and 10 kg light to be full back to take on geelong/collingwood fwds.

Now compare that to what we gave up for Gunston, first round pick and our 2nd and 3rd round picks being downgraded by 7 spots.

Am I missing something or what St Kilda got is what we should have got, they got an absolute bargain, almost for free.
 
Ahh , no.

You have set what a potential player is worth. He was not contracted. Gillies is and unless the deal is right , he will not be going anywhere. 33 & 51 is just to late.

You have apparently offered him 300G a year , has to be R1.

Haha, now Gillies thinks that's what he's worth.

I reckon its a smokescreen and we are interested in someone else but thought wtf we'll drive up Gillies price to piss you off.

Well played Hawks :thumbsu:
 
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