Tom Hawkins dangerous tackle, Darragh Joyce concussed

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Generalissimo

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A lot of melting going on in this thread.

When you actually look at the facts, you see that Geelong have been the most penalised team in the league over the last decade. Given our keepings-off chipperoo playstyle over much of that time, it suggests we kept getting done for things that would slide by for other teams-- and that of course is an accurate perception.

The only thing that's changed after about mid 2020 is that we've started taking the baloney charges to the tribunal when in earlier years we'd just grin and bear it. I suspect this has made Christian more wary of just making up bollocks charges against us, if he knows the tribunal will rightly chuck them out.

Seriously, this SHocking Geelong Protected Species baloney sounds like it came straight out of a QAnon conspiracy rant.
 

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Great tackle, shouldn't have been reported. What grinds my gears is that whilst this tackle is not comparable to the Worpel tackle in execution the outcome was worse, yet he is free to play, but that is a problem with the MRO / AFL.
 

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Great tackle, shouldn't have been reported. What grinds my gears is that whilst this tackle is not comparable to the Worpel tackle in execution the outcome was worse, yet he is free to play, but that is a problem with the MRO / AFL.
Cordy copped a fine for his tackle on Kosi where only 1 arm was pinned. Hawkins pins both arms which for years the AFL has said is banned but nothing happens. Because to find any level of guilt would have meant a 2 or 3 week suspension and the AFL hate suspending people going in to finals. There was simply no way it could have been a fine or 1 week.
 

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Cordy copped a fine for his tackle on Kosi where only 1 arm was pinned. Hawkins pins both arms which for years the AFL has said is banned but nothing happens. Because to find any level of guilt would have meant a 2 or 3 week suspension and the AFL hate suspending people going in to finals. There was simply no way it could have been a fine or 1 week.
Didn’t stop them with Hawkins in the 2019 QF
 

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That’s a perfectly good tackle.

Unless you want to make it illegal to tackle someone from behind, there’s nothing Hawkins did wrong.
 

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That’s a perfectly good tackle.

Unless you want to make it illegal to tackle someone from behind, there’s nothing Hawkins did wrong.
So youre okay if Membrey has his arms pinned and driven head first in to the ground after having disposed of the ball and getting concussed?

And the rule which says pinning both arms is automatically dangerous can be ignored ?
 

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Cordy copped a fine for his tackle on Kosi where only 1 arm was pinned. Hawkins pins both arms which for years the AFL has said is banned but nothing happens. Because to find any level of guilt would have meant a 2 or 3 week suspension and the AFL hate suspending people going in to finals. There was simply no way it could have been a fine or 1 week.
It is bad enough when the MRO isn't consistent from week to week. But to show it in the same release brings it to a new level
 

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It is bad enough when the MRO isn't consistent from week to week. But to show it in the same release brings it to a new level

2017 they were pinging players for pinning both arms. And after Burgoyne avoided suspension because he only pinned one arm the rules were tightened to include one arm pinned.

So its not new. Yet 4 years on its still up to the whim of the AFL as to who gets penalised.

Dangerfield should probably sue the AFL for the Brownlow he would have won.
 

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So youre okay if Membrey has his arms pinned and driven head first in to the ground after having disposed of the ball and getting concussed?

And the rule which says pinning both arms is automatically dangerous can be ignored ?
He didn’t drive his head into the ground.
 

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Nothing to see here. Two players playing football, it was a perfect tackle (it should be on a highlight reel of how to tackle videos) Nick Holman copped two weeks this year after concussing Mitch Duncan and it was thrown out at the Tribunal. It will be a complete waste of time pursuing this great tackle any further. Hawkins did nothing wrong, he was in motion to tackle when the ball was knocked free, he should be applauded for his efforts, if he gets rubbed out then the tackle must be eradicated from the game altogether. The only supporters of any MRO involvement are simply Geelong haters. It was an unfortunate accident and if a 105kg man falls on you there is every chance you will get hurt along the way. What game are they playing out there? Any Tribunal action will result in Hawkins being totally exonerated within a few minutes.
Exhibit A that this person does not watch football or can’t see through the Geelong blinkers.

How can the ball be knocked out in the tackle, when he had already disposed of it?
 

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If Bont had driven Redman in to the ground he wouldnt have even been cited. Its not just Geelong.

The AFL plays favourites.
So Hawkins, one of the most cited and penalised current footballers, is a favourite?

To all those posters who cannot contain their outrage, the same people who were outraged that Holman was cited by the MRO, what is the difference between the two cases, and why MUST Hawkins go but Holman had to be “set free”?

Rhetorical question because I already know the answer and it’s got nothing to do with the facts of the case
 

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So Hawkins, one of the most cited and penalised current footballers, is a favourite?

To all those posters who cannot contain their outrage, the same people who were outraged that Holman was cited by the MRO, what is the difference between the two cases, and why MUST Hawkins go but Holman had to be “set free”?

Rhetorical question because I already know the answer and it’s got nothing to do with the facts of the case
Hawkins is a recidivist. He got away with jumper punches for years before the AFL finally penalised him and even then it was fines before he finally got a week.

So youre okay with half a dozen Geelong players having their arms pinned and heads driven in to the ground and concussed this weekend?

The major difference is Hawkins pinned both arms. Holman only pinned one. Pinning both arms is what got Dangerfield 2 or 3 weeks 4 years ago. Its been banned for many years.

To this day players still get off if only one arm is pinned.
 

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So youre okay with half a dozen Geelong players having their arms pinned and heads driven in to the ground and concussed this weekend?
Of course not, but that didn’t happen with Hawkins, did it?

FYI I was one who thought Holman had to be suspended because the head is sacrosanct, but I was shouted down
 

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