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The Bay where all good troll s**t should end up. Where the **** else should it go?
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I thought the new rule was 6/6/6, not 2/8/8?Jack Riewoldt (30) / Tom Lynch (26)
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Josh Kennedy (31) / Jack Darling (26)
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Mason Cox (28) / Brody Mihocek (26)
These would be a better comparison
If Hawkins played for the sun's he would be lucky to have 98 goals..Well in the next two years they should retain simular form for the purposes of this thread.Hawkins has 498 goals from 232 games, Lynch has 254 goals from 131 games.
Hawkins on the left and Lynch on the right. I would take the Tomahawk every day of the week and twice on Saturday afternoons.
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Rather than go off just games I think seasons are a better measure, durability is also a category that should be considered so I’ll show Hawkins stats at the end of his 8th season as that is where Lynch is now.Ok now show me what Hawkins' numbers are at 131 games (same amount of games as what Lynch has played)?
Ok now show me what Hawkins' numbers are at 131 games (same amount of games as what Lynch has played)?
Hawkins is cooked.
So your argument is that Lynch is younger and therefore a better choice. Fine. I would choose the better proven player.
Lets say you can take one for the next few years , who would you take?According to some, Lynch (Richmond not the Crows one) is one knee injury away from a wheelchair and can't play well in big games when the pressure is on.On the other hand people are saying that Hawkins has the turning circle of a Mack truck and is nothing more than an accurate kick with a big behind.
No, my argument is that Hawkins took a long time to become the player he is today.
And when you say proven, just remember this is a guy who has averaged 4.3 marks and 1.4 goals in the finals throughout his career.
I didn’t know lynch had played in a big game , hawkins has been on the way out for a while doesn’t worry too many good sides these days
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Yes, ok. But Hawkins is the player he is today. While Lynch is not the player that Hawkins is today. And Lynch lacks the evidence to prove he will become the player that Hawkins is today (being he's been at Gold Coast his whole career, which is no one's fault, not even the Romans). So I would take Hawkins. I know what I get. Lynch is an expensive gamble.
You might want to check out Hawkins' last quarter in the 2011 Grand Final.No, my argument is that Hawkins took a long time to become the player he is today.
And when you say proven, just remember this is a guy who has averaged 4.3 marks and 1.4 goals in the finals throughout his career.
sorry I was only going on how he played against Richmond and finals this year , me badHawkins actually had his career best season in terms of possessions, marks and goals per game in 2018, but let's not let the facts get in the way of a good story, shall we?
You might want to check out Hawkins' last quarter in the 2011 Grand Final.
Again, don't let stats get in the way when assessing on field performance....
Is a key forward meant to dominate every game in September?I posted this already in another thread.
Hawkins has played two standout games in September.
The 2011 grand final where he monstered Ben Reid and a semi final against North Melbourne where he almost won us the game but the rest have been pretty mediocre.
I'd give a pass mark to someone 194cm/95kg but not this guy as he is 198cm/108kg so he his bigger and stronger than all defenders but still comes up short far too often in September.
Completely understand stats can be misleading but Geelong people like to knock Billy Brainless for his reputed lackluster performances in September, yet this guy continually gets a pass despite being one of the highest paid at the club and enters almost every final series in red hot form (except for 2013 due to back stiffness).
Wayne Carey is generally regarded as one if the greatest, if not the greatest, in the game.
How does his finals record, and in particular his Grand Final record, stack up?