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He's way too valuable to be...but imagine Jordy being the sub for us once the game opens up.

Titch and Long do the hard work in the middle, only for Jordy to come in like a bull in a china shop.

Funny seeing this post when I was ridiculed earlier in the season for suggesting we use Jordy as a super sub to help managing him through the season (since we so insisted on playing him when he was clearly hampered)
 

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Tom Mitchell had 29 disposals, 9 clearances, 9 tackles and a goal in a season-defining victory against the ladder leading Box Hill Hawks, where he was best on ground for Collingwood in the VFL.

I don't understand why people are choosing to discuss whether or not he can still play, or whether or not he is able to win a spot in the side this season, after that performance. As a point of comparison, and not at all as a shot at him, Lachie Sullivan hasn't played a game that good in the VFL since coming to Collingwood.

We have Schultz and Lipinski going out of the side and one would think that we obviously have a space open for Mitchell presuming he's ready fitness wise, and his form literally couldn't be much better right now.
 
I disagree even more now than I did back then seeing how damn near bullet proof our system is
You don't nurse a player in via sub. If they aren't capable of playing a full game, they shouldn't be sub because of the risk of an early injury.

You can do it as a quasi-rest for a player, like Pendles, but if he was required early in the game, he still could have fulfilled that role.

The question of whether JDG wasn't right to play earlier in the year is unknowable, so spare us your certainty on that.
 
You don't nurse a player in via sub. If they aren't capable of playing a full game, they shouldn't be sub because of the risk of an early injury.

You can do it as a quasi-rest for a player, like Pendles, but if he was required early in the game, he still could have fulfilled that role.

The question of whether JDG wasn't right to play earlier in the year is unknowable, so spare us your certainty on that.

It's unknowable?

Really? Come on man. You realise you don't have to disagree just for the sake of it yeah?

Anyone with functioning eye balls could see De Goey wasn't right from game one.

Now the sub argument? I just assume that he'd be more at risk of injury playing 3 quarters vs playing 1 wouldn't he?
 
It's unknowable?

Really? Come on man. You realise you don't have to disagree just for the sake of it yeah?

Anyone with functioning eye balls could see De Goey wasn't right from game one.

Now the sub argument? I just assume that he'd be more at risk of injury playing 3 quarters vs playing 1 wouldn't he?
JDG presumably hit all his markers, etc. and was thus deemed fit to play. It is not an exact science, but you seem comfortable in making an assessment via keyboard that this wasn't the case?

No point discussing the sub question further. If you don't get it, you don't get it.
 
JDG presumably hit all his markers, etc. and was thus deemed fit to play. It is not an exact science, but you seem comfortable in making an assessment via keyboard that this wasn't the case?

No point discussing the sub question further. If you don't get it, you don't get it.

The fundamental difference here is you take the club at face value which is fair enough

I don't always do that. Particualrly when Fly and other coaches have said repeatedly that "players play hurt".

This isn't a Sicily situation where people are hand waiving poor form with an assumption of injury. Jordan De Goey has quite clearly not been right since the start.
 
The fundamental difference here is you take the club at face value which is fair enough

I don't always do that. Particualrly when Fly and other coaches have said repeatedly that "players play hurt".

This isn't a Sicily situation where people are hand waiving poor form with an assumption of injury. Jordan De Goey has quite clearly not been right since the start.
With no first hand knowledge or presumably any expertise in the field, you presume to know better than those making decisions who have that experience and expertise.

That's either breathtakingly arrogant or stupid. Or maybe both?
 
With no first hand knowledge or presumably any expertise in the field, you presume to know better than those making decisions who have that experience and expertise.

That's either breathtakingly arrogant or stupid. Or maybe both?

You can throw insults all you like, fact is, turned out I was right...

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But let's not derail this thread further
 

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The fundamental difference here is you take the club at face value which is fair enough

I don't always do that. Particualrly when Fly and other coaches have said repeatedly that "players play hurt".

This isn't a Sicily situation where people are hand waiving poor form with an assumption of injury. Jordan De Goey has quite clearly not been right since the start.
Both could be right. He could be fully over the groin but struggled to shake off the Achilles injury Ned Long inflicted
 
Both could be right. He could be fully over the groin but struggled to shake off the Achilles injury Ned Long inflicted
He was slowly getting back to business until the new achilles injury. It was just bad luck.
 
Feels like kb is perfect time to just play him
Had a block of games and a bye the next week
9 day break between games and then a bye afterwards - For a test game, to see how he goes and how he holds up, it could not possibly be better placed.

If Fly's talk is all about putting people in a spot to succeed, I can't honestly see a single reason why this wouldn't be the first look we get at Tom Mitchell in the AFL side, as the beginning of the real experiment to see where he fits from this point forward in 2025.
 
9 day break between games and then a bye afterwards - For a test game, to see how he goes and how he holds up, it could not possibly be better placed.

If Fly's talk is all about putting people in a spot to succeed, I can't honestly see a single reason why this wouldn't be the first look we get at Tom Mitchell in the AFL side, as the beginning of the real experiment to see where he fits from this point forward in 2025.
I'd prefer we don't do test cases. There's no need to play Mitchell till after the bye. We already know what he can produce. Let's continue building him up till after the bye. I'm not even sure where he fits atm.
 

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