Scandal Tom Silvagni convicted of rape

[chickenonachain]

I reckon he will get three months jail possibly suspended.
I can’t believe anyone would impersonate being someone else just to get in his mates girlfriends pants. Seriously what the hell was he thinking

 

[gordo2016]

People smashing SOS need to first confirm if they have kids before posting coz you dont understand unless you have kids

If your son says he didnt do it you believe him

All depends how much your son has lied in the past. My son has given me that much BS in his life to cover his tracks that If he was found guilty by a jury, I would probably believe the jury.

 

[Sentinel]

Daily Mail reckons the SoS clan sold their Balwyn North house in mid 2024 (a few months after charges laid) and are planning a move to Qld.
If you believe anything the Daily Mail prints, then SoS will surely quit the club?

Stephen, Jo Silvagni finally move Balwyn North home

The Hosken Street home was listed in February with an $8-$8.8 million guide. EXCLUSIVE Former AFL player Stephen Silvagni and television personality, Jo Silvagni, have finally moved their Balwyn North family home. The Silvagnis built

www.realestatesource.com.au

Sold 05/06/2024 but first listed 20/02/2024. The rape happened (at this house) in January 2024. Charges were apparently laid mid-2024 (not sure when exactly) so may or may not be related to the court case. I'm sure those legal fees won't have been cheap though.

https://www.onthehouse.com.au/property/vic/balwyn-north-3104/25-hosken-st-balwyn-north-vic-3104-20210421

 

[jaggathebagger]

5 years sound about the right sentence. All of a sudden , what appears to be the perfect family is not so perfect. Fully understand the parents being there for their kid, but the trust has completely evaporated now given the stain against the family name. No winners in these situations.

 

[10571z]

If he is convicted he has to shut up, if he said that whilst he was convicted its a different story imo

Put yourself in SOS shoes, what would you do? You protect your son at all costs

My son could kill someone and I would still be in his corner, rightly or wrongly

Gee I dont agree with that.

 

[chippie]

no he wont. he defending the person, not the action. As expected from a father

No, he is defending a convicted rapist. Simple

 

[deck]

If my daughter committed a serious crime AND the evidence was that clear, I wouldn't disown her, id still love her, but I have enough common sense not to get infront of a camera and declare her innocence

Would've been the smartest thing to do. Just don't comment at all.

 

[chippie]

People smashing SOS need to first confirm if they have kids before posting coz you dont understand unless you have kids

If your son says he didnt do it you believe him

Really!? I have a 16 year old son. He has tried to pull the wool over my eyes many times ( as I did to my Dad when I was a kid ) and I’ve called him out on it many times. I still love him but never excuse his behaviour if I don’t think it’s right. I think the blindly believing “my son is perfect and couldn’t possibly have done anything wrong” is a big part of this whole situation from the beginning

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Until the appeals are finished he could be telling the truth.

You have really been working overtime to muddy the waters in this thread and try to paint some picture of doubt - not sure I've seen you once condemn the actions this man has been found guilty of. Almost like you're leaning in to the remote idea that he's been falsely accused of rape without saying it explicitly, despite there being no evidence of that being the case.

It's like on the Collingwood board when people have raised instances they feel there is a racism element and you immediately pipe up with "don't say it's racist, it takes away from real instances of racism," but there never seems to be those so-called real instances you keep referring to.

 

[Warhorse]

Burden of proof seems low for a conviction nowadays. I wonder if it will be appealed and overturned.

 

[1970crow]

Unless they (parents) genuinely believe he's innocent

I can 100% understand that going in, but surely they have doubts by now.

 

[thumbs_up]

Burden of proof seems low for a conviction nowadays. I wonder if it will be appealed and overturned.

The proof is there. I think what you're actually trying to say is "I can't believe someone actually got convicted of rape". How dare they!!

 

[Gavin Excell]

Burden of proof seems low for a conviction nowadays. I wonder if it will be appealed and overturned.

There have been changes to the way Victorian system in relation to rape cases. Its not perfect but seems an improvement. Below summarises


The reforms focus on the legal framework surrounding consent, the judge's role in guiding juries, and procedural changes to the court process.

Jury Directions on "Beyond Reasonable Doubt": Judges are now required to explain the meaning of "proof beyond reasonable doubt" to the jury in all criminal trials, including sexual offence cases. This change, based on recommendations from the Victorian Law Reform Commission (VLRC), is intended to address potential juror confusion and ensure consistent application of the standard.Affirmative Consent Model: The Justice Legislation Amendment (Sexual Offences and Other Matters) Act 2022 introduced an affirmative consent model which took effect from July 30, 2023.This legislation clarifies that an accused person's belief in consent is not reasonable unless they said or did something to find out whether the other person consented.Previously, the law only required that the steps taken to determine consent were "relevant" to the assessment of "reasonable belief". The new provision creates a stricter requirement for the defence to prove the accused took active steps to confirm consent, which impacts how the "reasonable belief" element is assessed by the jury.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

The cynic in me believes bloke will get a slap on the wrist and a redemption arc by AFL land. They'll put their arms around him and get him back on his feet. Hell, this might be the best thing for Tom!

A plum job awaits somewhere and a true gentleman failing upwards.

 

[Gavin Excell]

The cynic in me believes bloke will get a slap on the wrist and a redemption arc by AFL land. They'll put their arms around him and get him back on his feet. Hell, this might be the best thing for Tom!

A plum job awaits somewhere and a true gentleman failing upwards.

He's not a player though

 

[1970crow]

He's not a player though

He’s a player agent though, or works in that industry.

 

[thumbs_up]

The cynic in me believes bloke will get a slap on the wrist and a redemption arc by AFL land. They'll put their arms around him and get him back on his feet. Hell, this might be the best thing for Tom!

A plum job awaits somewhere and a true gentleman failing upwards.

Channel 7 commentary team awaits.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Read a news snippet that said Sylvania was also expelled from Xavier College when he was 16. The news article was deliberately vague as he was under age, but it alludes to an incident of a similar nature

 

[Mister Carlton]

People smashing SOS need to first confirm if they have kids before posting coz you dont understand unless you have kids

If your son says he didnt do it you believe him

People smashing SOS because he’s been a POS for many years. This is the final straw.

His legacy is dead.

 

[Bjchan13]

Was that actual evidence in court? If so, you’d wonder how his parents could continue to believe in his innocence.

Should back it up a bit, it hasn't actually been reported that Tom directly asked the mate to lie for him. He asked for the mates uber receipt which he edited and then sent back to him (this is where im assuming he was indirectly asking his mate to lie for him in regards to the time he left the house). There are also messages between Tom and his mate, and the mate and the victim that have been reported (both confirm the mate had left and was at home already) which support her story and not Toms.

Who knows exactly how it went down in court

 

[Gavin Excell]

People smashing SOS because he’s been a POS for many years. This is the final straw.

His legacy is dead.

I remember reading when Jack played his 100th game, he didnt want to attend his celebratory function post game and sat it out in the car park. I get you can leave a place not on best terms, but surely you swallow your pride and be there for your son. Sometimes its not about you.

 

[MisterMarcus]

I know lie detectors are inadmissible, but I'd love for more victims to take them, and for the public to put pressure on the accused to also take one.

Society really is ****ed.

Polygraphs are inadmissable because they aren't remotely accurate enough to be used as any kind of 'proof' in a legal sense.

Suppose a genuine victim took one and it (incorrectly) gave a 'LIE' result, then what?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Any reason why Stephen Silvagnis job is not finished?

If Bob Smith from St Kildas playing list did what Stephen did he would be out of a job for sure with all the media pressure.....

 

[1970crow]

Should back it up a bit, it hasn't actually been reported that Tom directly asked the mate to lie for him. He asked for the mates uber receipt which he edited and then sent back to him (this is where im assuming he was indirectly asking his mate to lie for him in regards to the time he left the house). There are also messages between Tom and his mate, and the mate and the victim that have been reported (both confirm the mate had left and was at home already) which support her story and not Toms.

Who knows exactly how it went down in court

Adelaide Advertiser saying he messaged the mate asking him to tell the chick that he had returned. Surely that suggests that he acknowledges someone went into the room.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I remember reading when Jack played his 100th game, he didnt want to attend his celebratory function post game and sat it out in the car park. I get you can leave a place not on best terms, but surely you swallow your pride and be there for your son. Sometimes its not about you.

Its incredibly insane given the current situation with Tom

Talk about a complete and utter lack of logic