No Oppo Supporters Tom Stewart's targeted KO'ing of Prestia - 4 week ban

[Sterge]

Some of you need to chill out, be better than geelong supporters.

We dont need to wish injuries on anyone or hope someone evens it up.

Just be content in the fact we win when it really matters.

Also the thread is about Stewart and Prestia

 

[Meteoric Rise]

No, not at all!!! It's the intention to bump

Under Tribunal guidelines it is the intention to commit the reportable offence.

You could argue around whether a vigorous body check in this instance was a reportable offence but then I guess they might argue it was not the reportable offence. A vigorous body check would be reportable as rough conduct I think if the ball was more than 5m away at the time.

But what this hearing should have been about was whether Stewart intended to bump Prestia to the head as this was the reportable offence committed in this case. In the Tribunal guidelines it says the best guide to a player’s intentions is often his actions. So here the AFL should have been saying the player needs to argue away why his actions are not the best guide to his intentions. I had a neutral friend who had not seen his incident look at this yesterday. I showed him the footage a few times. I asked him one simple question. Do you think Stewart intended to bump Prestia to the head? He looked at it a few times and said yes he believes Stewart intended to bump Prestia to the head.

Why the AFL have not even considered this question beyond Brad Scott’s desk is scandalous. These Tribunal hearings are the best chance they get to explore whether a bump can ever fairly be graded as intentional conduct.

It is diabolical.

 

[Grockadoc]

So WTF is going on?

Every man and his dog has agreed that the act was intentional, even his defence counsel, he 'might' have been careless in the execution, but the fact is that he lined him up and KO'd him

Everyone in their right mind agrees it was intentional. Geelong supporters and AFL shills gave him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

News just in

3 weeks

Tribunal apologies to Stewart

 

[tigersnag]

The AFL has just had the Danny game CTE and they let this slip to the keeper

Big Tobacco
James Hardie Asbestos
Opioid addiction
Concussion in sport

Q. What will these things have in common?

A. Billions in compensation.

 

[JackNah_8]

Who in the media is going to call this manufactured bullshit out?

Geelong wants 3, AFL wants 4. He gets 4 and it's a win for the good guys right?

FMD AFL, at least try and hide the deceit. No shame.

Maybe robbo will write an article about it

Exactly my point. For all the huffing and puffing over the last 5 years about the head being sacrosanct, that if you bump and get someone high, you're gone, Spud's Game, CTE, Shane Tuck etc, it is incredible to think that the AFL have ducked up head high hits everytime they had a chance to stamp it out and send a message.

Weakwilled, spineless, hypocrites.a

Afl will end up with lawsuits for not doing enough to protect players

 

[beema limapep]

What of organisational values and behaviours?

We are at the end of the human centipede.

 

[Foley#41]

Cannot believe the AFL gimp is asking for only 4 weeks

 

[STRUGGLETOWN EST1885]

In fairness it’s only a matter of time until even Melbourne lists Geelong as a finals bitch

I hate the Cats so much I even said to a Carlton mate I'd be OK with his mob owning them too. Lol

 

[4tune8]

Everyone in their right mind agrees it was intentional. Geelong supporters and AFL shills gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Haha, I do like the use of the word 'shills'

I just wonder what the media reaction will be? A proper punishment for a good bloke? Or, outrage at a manufactured result?

Forget that...I'm stupid, it's obviously the former..............

 

[tigs2010]

I hate the Cats so much I even said to a Carlton mate I'd be OK with his mob owning them too. Lol

Oh dear

 

[_RT_]

And it's four weeks for Tom Stewart.
Tribunal chair Jeff Gleeson said:
"The bump was late. He (Prestia) was wide open, exposed and vulnerable.
"Stewart had sufficient time to see Prestia had not taken possession.
"He ran past the ball and made a conscious, albeit split-second, decision to bump Presita at speed.
"The degree of carelessness was high.
"He breached his duty of care by some margin."

 

[beema limapep]

4 weeks

 

[k31th]

FOUR WEEKS FOR STEWART​

And it's four weeks for Tom Stewart.
Tribunal chair Jeff Gleeson said:
"The bump was late. He (Prestia) was wide open, exposed and vulnerable.
"Stewart had sufficient time to see Prestia had not taken possession.
"He ran past the ball and made a conscious, albeit split-second, decision to bump Presita at speed.
"The degree of carelessness was high.
"He breached his duty of care by some margin."

 

[beema limapep]

Disgrace.

 

[Foley#41]

Should count himself lucky

 

[k31th]

Just bloody pea-hearted by the AFL to both class it as "careless" which was clearly bullshit and then to only argue for 4 weeks, which was a pittance compared to what he should have got if they were even trying to take it seriously.

 

[tenderwarrior]

Oi tenderwarrior, nice like lurking you muppet!

Got something to say?

Well, seeing that you ask...

Stewart should have just accepted four weeks.

Character, perceived as good or otherwise should play no part in the sentence size.

If AFL are serious about head hits they need to severely penalise off the ball hits, regardless of outcome.

I hope Prestia is okay. That should be the primary concern

I am not a huge fan of Scott or Dangerfield..

 

[Foley#41]

“The degree of carelessness was high” sounds a lot like intentional.

 

[DM#4]

So if he had sufficient time to see Prestia had not taken possession of the ball and made a conscious decision to bump - isn’t that intentional?

 

[Tiges1229]

fmd whwt a disgrace

 

[Grockadoc]

Well, seeing that you ask...

Stewart should have just accepted four weeks.

Character, perceived as good or otherwise should play no part in the sentence size.

If AFL are serious about head hits they need to severely penalise off the ball hits, regardless of outcome.

I hope Prestia is okay. That should be the primary concern

I am not a huge fan of Scott or Dangerfield..

I don't believe it... a genuine Cats fan with a brain!

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Right call imo

 

[Grockadoc]

If the degree of carelessness was high, why wasn't it intentional?

 

[beema limapep]

Joe Public won't be happy.

Enjoy what you cop next game Stewart.

 

[Grockadoc]

And it's four weeks for Tom Stewart.
Tribunal chair Jeff Gleeson said:
"The bump was late. He (Prestia) was wide open, exposed and vulnerable.
"Stewart had sufficient time to see Prestia had not taken possession.
"He ran past the ball and made a conscious, albeit split-second, decision to bump Presita at speed.
"The degree of carelessness was high.
"He breached his duty of care by some margin."

Conscious devision to bump sounds like.an intentional act.