MVP Tommy Boyd - The Boy, The Man, The Premiership Hero

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Numpties?

With hundreds upon hundreds of references, many written by journalists with more of an insight and connections to those involved than many of us - sources from the Herald Sun, The Age, Foxsports, Footy Classified - I may very well be wrong bud, but what I've written is based on evidence from a lot of sources.

*He later signed a seven-year, $7 million contract with the Bulldogs

*Then there's Boyd's contract — a whopping $7 million over seven years

*Boyd's stunning seven-year deal worth about $7 million

*Former Western Bulldogs champion says $7 million Tom Boyd contract is a 'monster risk'.

*The 2013 No.1 pick joined the Western Bulldogs on a seven-year contract understood to be worth about$7 million.

*By virtue of his seven-year $7 million contract Tom Boyd will always..

*First-year player Tom Boyd sent shockwaves through the footy industry after he scored himself a reported $7 million seven-year deal

*TOM Boyd arrived at the Bulldogs with a $7 million contract amid a media storm

*He is believed to be on over $7 million for seven years and after being paid around $200,000 under his standard second-year contract in 2015 will be earning well over $1 million a season. So he could be paid as much as $400,000 a season more than Hawkins in 2016 despite almost no exposed form.

There's other sources that quote $6mil and they could very well be right, but regardless of which figure is correct/incorrect, if it's not beyond you, maybe try contribute something to the discussion rather than one sentence pot-shots at people providing a (possibly factual) point of view that you don't like hearing.
... and all those sources: The Age, Herald Sun etc. also have links saying that he is getting paid $6 million, or a tad over, over six years.
The reason that the $7 million comes around because it's the sum of the trade when you consider paying Griffen's salary.
I provided links above - and just to prove my point:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...n/news-story/32da7cfd105a328227b2725faef60a06
"estimated at $6 million"

etc.
I'm not denying the accumulative hit against the cap was, or is, slightly above $7 million across the 7 years from 2015-2021.
That's where the confusion comes from.

It's quite possible, even likely, that us submitting our contract to the AFL for the purposes of showing we remain under the salary cap, and also us submitting our paperwork to show we're paying Griffen in 2015, was done at the same time, or even in the same set of paperwork, at the time the trade was done. It's because of this reason people put two and two together - maybe through contacts at the clubs or AFL - and thing $7 million over 7 years is what Boyd's getting paid. It's not, but it is correct to say it's the cost of the trade in total. But Boyd's only getting paid $6 million over the 6 years from this year onwards, not $7 million, which is why I was pointing out it was incorrect.

It's easy to see where the confusion comes from. $7 million is the cost of paying players as a whole, as a function of the trade, both Boyd and Griffen. But we're paying Boyd $6.2 million over 7 years - maybe slightly more - 200k last year as part of the fixed amount that players receive on their initial two-year draftee contract, and $6 million over 6 years (which ties in to the fact that all media sources talk about an average of $1 million per year, not more than $1 million per year from this 6 year period). People get that confused. They talk about the cost to the club of making the trade, which cost us $7 million in accumulation. That is correct. But then they get that confused about how much Boyd is actually earning, (and therefore analysing his output compared to his salary), which is $6.2 over 7 years that he's contracted to the club.
 

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... and all those sources: The Age, Herald Sun etc. also have links saying that he is getting paid $6 million, or a tad over, over six years.
The reason that the $7 million comes around because it's the sum of the trade when you consider paying Griffen's salary.
I provided links above - and just to prove my point:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...n/news-story/32da7cfd105a328227b2725faef60a06
"estimated at $6 million"

etc.
I'm not denying the accumulative hit against the cap was, or is, slightly above $7 million across the 7 years from 2015-2021.
That's where the confusion comes from.

It's quite possible, even likely, that us submitting our contract to the AFL for the purposes of showing we remain under the salary cap, and also us submitting our paperwork to show we're paying Griffen in 2015, was done at the same time, or even in the same set of paperwork, at the time the trade was done. It's because of this reason people put two and two together - maybe through contacts at the clubs or AFL - and thing $7 million over 7 years is what Boyd's getting paid. It's not, but it is correct to say it's the cost of the trade in total. But Boyd's only getting paid $6 million over the 6 years from this year onwards, not $7 million, which is why I was pointing out it was incorrect.

It's easy to see where the confusion comes from. $7 million is the cost of paying players as a whole, as a function of the trade, both Boyd and Griffen. But we're paying Boyd $6.2 million over 7 years - maybe slightly more - 200k last year as part of the fixed amount that players receive on their initial two-year draftee contract, and $6 million over 6 years (which ties in to the fact that all media sources talk about an average of $1 million per year, not more than $1 million per year from this 6 year period). People get that confused. They talk about the cost to the club of making the trade, which cost us $7 million in accumulation. That is correct. But then they get that confused about how much Boyd is actually earning, (and therefore analysing his output compared to his salary), which is $6.2 over 7 years that he's contracted to the club.
Seriously dude, all of those articles are saying TOM BOYD'S DIRECT CONTRACT is $7 million. They are saying WHAT TOM BOYD IS GOING TO BE PAID IS $7 MILLION OVER 7 YEARS. Which, after the $200k for his first season is taken out of the equation, is approx $1.15mil a year. If those journalists and their sources are wrong, then they're wrong.

If you think this is not at all possible or feasible, fine, but it is what many in the industry believe the deal to be. I'm more than happy for them and me to be proven wrong, and if you have a copy of Tom Boyd's contract fantastic, but when Hutchy, someone with a well established direct line to Liam Pickering, says that in he last 6 years of the contract Tom Boyd will be paid well north of $1million a season, I've got little reason to doubt him.
 

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Seriously dude, all of those articles are saying TOM BOYD'S DIRECT CONTRACT is $7 million. They are saying WHAT TOM BOYD IS GOING TO BE PAID IS $7 MILLION OVER 7 YEARS. Which, after the $200k for his first season is taken out of the equation, is approx $1.15mil a year. If those journalists and their sources are wrong, then they're wrong.

If you think this is not at all possible or feasible, fine, but it is what many in the industry believe the deal to be. I'm more than happy for them and me to be proven wrong, and if you have a copy of Tom Boyd's contract fantastic, but when Hutchy, someone with a well established direct line to Liam Pickering, says that in he last 6 years of the contract Tom Boyd will be paid well north of $1million a season, I've got little reason to doubt him.
And a similar number of articles have quoted $6 million. Which means to me, the logical take of all this is people are getting the "cost to the Dogs' salary cap" and "the actual dollar amount to Boyd's bank account" confused.
 

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I've heard the next title is going to be: "Tom Boyd and the escape from Pann's dungeon" :p
I'm hoping it ends up.
Tom Boyd: See I told all you campaigners! He's not even 21 and has already won us a flag!

Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue but it'd be nice.
 

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So his big years of making huge coin are when Stringer and Bont come out of contact? That's not good for us if that's the case.
I've tried to work out who is on the cash, even if it's back ended, and I can't work it out. Dally said his 2 big years, but I really don't know why those years are important.
 

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I've tried to work out who is on the cash, even if it's back ended, and I can't work it out. Dally said his 2 big years, but I really don't know why those years are important.
They are probably due to later contract escalators. Eg. Kick more than 2 goals per game, play more than 16 games, make Pann happy.... You know, just standard stuff.
 

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I know it's a valid conversation, but if we're asking/telling the rest of bigfooty to forget about the actual sums and payment dates etc then maybe we could refrain from flogging it to death here?

Just my 2c, but we'll know if it's a problem when it's actually a problem. If there are rumblings in the club because he's not developing/delivering, or we start to lose good players to f.a.

My view, like many others, is pretty simplistic as a fan. If he helps to win a flag it's been worth it. Let's not think too much about the alternative at this stage.
 
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