MVP Tommy Boyd - The Boy, The Man, The Premiership Hero

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I guess there is ideally what we want him to play as (70% forward) and what will happen next year.

Form or injuries to the other ruckmen, or him not being in the best form as a forward could lead to a lot of him in the ruck. Plus if he improves any further as a ruck it could be to our detriment not to include him there.

Our drafting English and resigning of BTC clearly suggests us wanting him forward more though, you'd think?
 

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All good points.
And it is the reason I'm not touching that JJ discussion with a 500 ft pole. That and the fact that there's too many overblown egos involved that the board might just implode if I add my own.

So...about that Tommy Boyd.
Ruckman/Key foward? What's the best ratio?
I'm happy enough for him to play 40-60 if that's what eventuates but I'm still keen on him becoming a permenant forward,he's still only 21 so there is still plenty of scope for improvment there.
I also thought the Roughead/Campbell partnership worked well enough at the start of the year and Campbell's still young also. I think there is room for all three in the side,with Boyd as the main forward.
 
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I guess there is ideally what we want him to play as (70% forward) and what will happen next year.

Form or injuries to the other ruckmen, or him not being in the best form as a forward could lead to a lot of him in the ruck. Plus if he improves any further as a ruck it could be to our detriment not to include him there.

Our drafting English and resigning of BTC clearly suggests us wanting him forward more though, you'd think?
Hopefully Boyd gets more time forward, but keeping Campbell and drafting English was the bare minimum response to losing Minson and (to a much lesser extent) Goetz. If Roughead gets injured, then Boyd can't be expected to ruck on his own!
 

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Clearly, and the results speak for themselves, what a courageous and advantageous trade it was to get him in the club.

Yes the early money was high but coming to the 3rd year it is getting closer to Market value for a player of his type.

There has been zero downside that the naysayers of the deal rabbitted on about ie losing key players and the club has never been in a stronger place economically
 

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Yes the early money was high but coming to the 3rd year it is getting closer to Market value for a player of his type.
... just before the cap goes up again due to new rights deals.

He'll be on unders as his contract draws to a close, right as he is peaking.
 

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... just before the cap goes up again due to new rights deals.

He'll be on unders as his contract draws to a close, right as he is peaking.
Which is why I find it amazing how some people were criticising the nature of it being a 7 year deal, as opposed to a 4 or 5 year deal or whatever.

I mean it was mainly a bigfooty opinion but this article that's going to get quoted and quoted year after year also does it:
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/to...s/news-story/330c10f2e3823db7c8b477456363e85d

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Why did it need to be a million a season? Was Boyd not coming for $700,000 or $800,000?

Was the seventh year crucial in sealing the deal? Or would he have come for six?

...

Over the next four years Boyd will earn somewhere in the vicinity of $4 million.

It doesn’t make sense to pay that much for 20 goals a season, even if you’re guaranteed 60 goal seasons for the three years after.

But that’s what the Dogs have done.

...

It’s the Bulldogs who have the most to answer for.
Like I don't get that logic at all. Given that we'd have to, in that posters own words, pay at least $700,000 to land Boyd, what's the point of paying that amount of money for, say, "only" a 5 year deal, for the years in which Boyd is aged 20-24? Like, the last thing we'd want is for him to take our money, be on the brink of being a good KPF, then leave in an OOC deal meaning wasted salary cap money in that give.

And of course this is before even considering the rise in the salary cap, which mean's today's $1 million will be 2021's $1.25 million.

Given that around $1 million per year was what was needed to land Boyd, why not ensure we have his age-25 and age-26 seasons locked under our club before he goes out of contract again. KPF's are like gold, and if we were not to have won a flag by the end of 2019 (I hate to think of that), absolutely everybody would be mighty pissed that Boyd might have gone chasing success elsewhere because we only had the foresight to sign him to a 5 year deal way back in 2014.
 

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And what exactly are the contractual law qualifications of this Jai Bednall ( who????!?) to sound so authoritative and definitive about the deal? Is It a nom de plume of Damian Barrett?


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I'll bet that's one article that he wishes he never wrote. What a howler!
 

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Which is why I find it amazing how some people were criticising the nature of it being a 7 year deal, as opposed to a 4 or 5 year deal or whatever.
Its almost like the forever rising nature of tpp's weren't factored in by the rubes running our football department when they came to the seemingly arbitrary 7 year contract duration. Or something...

Easton: "So...What did think of all that uninformed noise regarding your contract and value to the side a few months ago Tom. Its pretty funny now, eh?"
Tom: "Bwahahahahahahahaha!"
Easton: "Bwahahahahahahahaha. Indeed!"
Tom: "Drinks are on me boys!!!"

 

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Which is why I find it amazing how some people were criticising the nature of it being a 7 year deal, as opposed to a 4 or 5 year deal or whatever.

I mean it was mainly a bigfooty opinion but this article that's going to get quoted and quoted year after year also does it:
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/to...s/news-story/330c10f2e3823db7c8b477456363e85d



Like I don't get that logic at all. Given that we'd have to, in that posters own words, pay at least $700,000 to land Boyd, what's the point of paying that amount of money for, say, "only" a 5 year deal, for the years in which Boyd is aged 20-24? Like, the last thing we'd want is for him to take our money, be on the brink of being a good KPF, then leave in an OOC deal meaning wasted salary cap money in that give.

And of course this is before even considering the rise in the salary cap, which mean's today's $1 million will be 2021's $1.25 million.

Given that around $1 million per year was what was needed to land Boyd, why not ensure we have his age-25 and age-26 seasons locked under our club before he goes out of contract again. KPF's are like gold, and if we were not to have won a flag by the end of 2019 (I hate to think of that), absolutely everybody would be mighty pissed that Boyd might have gone chasing success elsewhere because we only had the foresight to sign him to a 5 year deal way back in 2014.
I just tweeted the writer ! Couldn't help myself
 

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Ok so flicking through my joint instagram account with the wife whose a midwife and couldn't help smiling seeing this picture !!!

Remind you of anyone !?! An image I'll never get outta my head.

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