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At 1-1 I'm not sure finals is out of the question at all. In fact I still think we will make the 8. Need to improve to win one final, but I'd rather peak then than now. Hopefully.

Is anyone here that naive they dont think every other club will play badly either? What happened to Melbourne, Adelaide and the Bombers last week? Every club is gonna get spanked at some point.
 
I looked at Richmond's next few games and it is not an easy draw

Round 3 (AWAY) - GWS
Round 4 (AWAY) - Port Adelaide
Round 5 (HOME) - Sydney
Round 6 (HOME) - Melbourne

Sydney might be the outlier there but GWS, Port and Melbourne are not easy beats. All of them could in theory beat Richmond.
Two away games in a row from here is really bad timing and hurts. We could realistically be 1-3. I would expect to beat the Swans but Melbourne will be tough. 2-4 is probably the reality. 1-5 and 3-3 aren't completely out of the question though either.
 

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Two away games in a row from here is really bad timing and hurts. We could realistically be 1-3. I would expect to beat the Swans but Melbourne will be tough. 2-4 is probably the reality. 1-5 and 3-3 aren't completely out of the question though either.
2-4 We are definitely done for top 4 and 1-5 probably done for finals
 
Couple of things - Dustin Martin sadly has really fallen off a cliff (compared to his brilliant 2017 season, which to be fair, was one of the very best and blistering individual season' s by a player we have ever seen) and two, there a couple of ordinary players in Richmond's 22 last who are being exposed as battlers/not very good at all (Castagna being the prime example)

Hardwick also made a boo boo blaming Balta.

To be fair, The Pies were brilliant last night, I honestly don't think any team would have beaten them last night in that form, I think Collingwood are well and truly now the Victorian favourite to win the flag (sadly)
Collingwood must have won last weekend too then.
 

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One man is the difference between them being a monty for me as opposed to a making up the numbers in the 8.

And I wasn't a Rance fan....

Collingwood is the only chance the cup stays in Victoria.
 
Out of curiousity, why were they happy for Sam Lloyd to leave but recruited Weller? Lloyd has been pretty good the matches I have seen him in?
Wellers in Caddy’s role
He’ll be in the vfl when Caddy’s right
 
Toothless was Grimes throwing an elbow late after lining him up from a meter away.

I couldn't have cared about their match next week but I hope they lose on the back of the second key forward dominating because I enjoy seeing thugs cost their team. No Rance/Riewoldt/Houli, last thing they needed was a top 6 defender in the comp (in my opinion) throwing an elbow for no reason other than losing discipline.
 
We got smashed in round 2 last year too, gotta laugh at the dismal attempts to try and make Richmond supporters upset. We won a ****ing premiership under a year and a half ago [emoji12] yeah it’s been hard watching all those wins year in year out.
 
In 2017 and 2018 they followed the Doggies 2016 gameplan.

Manic pressure and being a momentum team.

I feel the hunger has dropped off like it did with the Dogs.
 

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The reality is that we are not good in big games apart from the 2017 finals series. I can highlight all of the big games we had since 2013 and most of them are losses, with some even being thrashings. The losses are also largely the same - most of our star players go missing. It happened yesterday against Collingwood, it happened in the PF last year, it happened in our loss against Adelaide in a top-of-the-table clash in Round 6 2017, it happened in the 2013 EF against Carlton, it happened in the 2015 EF against North Melbourne, it happened in the 2014 EF against Port Adelaide etc.

We still have a similar group of top-end players to 2013, so I believe my criticism of them from 2013 through to 2019 apart from the 2017 finals series is still relevant.
Last year’s big games we won, I’m not looking at 2013 as that is irrelevant.
Anzac eve v Melbourne - win
Twice v Collingwood home & away - win
Twice v cats- win
Qualifying final v Hawthorn win
Above were all massive games, just remember we beat pies by 43 points first time we played them last year, they ended up a kick from the flag.
We beat Melbourne by 46 points they made a prelim.
2017 st.kilda beat us by 10 goals, we won the flag.
Yes last night was terrible and we need to get much better however the body of work this side has put together over the last 24 months is better than any other team and I’m not prepared to desert them just yet.
 
One man is the difference between them being a monty for me as opposed to a making up the numbers in the 8.

And I wasn't a Rance fan....

Collingwood is the only chance the cup stays in Victoria.
That's the dumb thing about everyone who has been bagging out rance for the last 5 years. Everyone thinks he is an overrated hack, yet now he is the difference between being the best and barely making the 8.

Fwiw, I think he is because he is that good. Sounds like you agree.
 
That's the dumb thing about everyone who has been bagging out rance for the last 5 years. Everyone thinks he is an overrated hack, yet now he is the difference between being the best and barely making the 8.

Fwiw, I think he is because he is that good. Sounds like you agree.
I've grown to respect him now and realise his true value to the team.

He's as important to your team as anyone in the league.

Everyone has irreplaceable players but he's on another level.

I'm mixed on whether Lynch is what you needed, you get him cause he's good, but if Jack was younger I reckon he'd be a backwards step. Maybe it's more future oriented. Your best is the tackling small fwds, I'd think bombing it to the big guy with a defence without Rance is gonna be a step backwards.
 
I've grown to respect him now and realise his true value to the team.

He's as important to your team as anyone in the league.

Everyone has irreplaceable players but he's on another level.

I'm mixed on whether Lynch is what you needed, you get him cause he's good, but if Jack was younger I reckon he'd be a backwards step. Maybe it's more future oriented. Your best is the tackling small fwds, I'd think bombing it to the big guy with a defence without Rance is gonna be a step backwards.
Tbh I don't think lynch should be playing because he isn't fully fit, but he isn't the problem. I've said on my own board even last year that our midfield is bottom 8. Dusty is a gun, Edwards and Cochin are a grade, preatia is good for the 10 games he plays and Lambert is an honest worker. That's it. Rance is so important because our midfield gets carved up when Dusty isn't on. If Dusty isn't right, Cochin and Edwards can't carry the rest.
 
Tbh I don't think lynch should be playing because he isn't fully fit, but he isn't the problem. I've said on my own board even last year that our midfield is bottom 8. Dusty is a gun, Edwards and Cochin are a grade, preatia is good for the 10 games he plays and Lambert is an honest worker. That's it. Rance is so important because our midfield gets carved up when Dusty isn't on. If Dusty isn't right, Cochin and Edwards can't carry the rest.
100% agree. He makes average players look good.

Hence why I reckon he's as important as anyone.

One eyed fans will pretend every player in 2017 was elite but when shit hits the fan you learn alot about who really matters.

I can name countless players who were made to look good when it mattered by their team mates.
 

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