List Mgmt. Top 16 Draft Wishlist

[Dav1d]

Ok, for fun.

1. BL: Dow (country lad theory, BL may be wary of city boys who miss mummy)
2. Fre: LDU (country lad theory being a factor in this selection
3. Car: Raynor (they will be over rating the "/mid" tag attached to this forward)
4. NM: Stephenson (wow factor, won't last much longer than this pick)
5. Fre: Naughton (highly rated local product KPD)
6. Col: Coffield (everyone seems to say they are set on him)
7. Stk: Cerra (1st part of a dynamic midfield duo)
8. Stk: Constable (2nd part of a dynamic midfield duo)
9. WB: Clark (plays like Hodge - booming kick, commanding, really hard at it, can play in the midfield or defence)
10. Car: Brayshaw (sure bet hard headed partner for Cripps)
11. GWS: Hayes (can't go past the premium ruck product now that Mummy has retired)
12. Ade: Fogarty (burly local lad ranked around this pick range)
13. WC: Brander (versatile tall and a country lad)
14. Syd: Higgins (Buddy partner)
15. BL: Bonar (risk might be worth it with good academy recruits up their sleeve later in the draft)
16. WB: Liam Ryan (20 yo dynamic forward from WA who kicked over 70 goals in 2017, is strong, quick, brilliant overhead and kicks 'em from everywhere - yes, he was overlooked in last years draft but should be a bolter - will definitely go to one of the WA clubs with a pick in the 30's but we should get in first. He is 184cm but plays FF really well, is built strongly like Marcus Adams.)
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82. Crameri (they will give him a one year contract to see if he can get back to his barnstorming 2015 form).

I think its how you rate the players and not where you expect that they will go.

 

[Yojimbo]

I think its how you rate the players and not where you expect that they will go.

So Dav1d is it your top 16 players you rate from the draft, i was not
all that sure ?

 

[Dav1d]

So Dav1d is it your top 16 players you rate from the draft, i was not
all that sure ?

I thought it was how you rate the players overall

That is why I had Rayner lower and a few ahead of Dow

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

It's how you rate them for the Dogs in particular. So your order of preference basically.

 

[Dav1d]

It's how you rate them for the Dogs in particular. So your order of preference basically.

Ah, mine wouldn't change then.

 

[Leviticus]

So Dav1d is it your top 16 players you rate from the draft, i was not
all that sure ?

apologies if I got that wrong.

 

[Leviticus]

I thought it was how you rate the players overall

That is why I had Rayner lower and a few ahead of Dow

Yep, I didn't read the header closely enough. Back to the drawing board.

I will cut it to the mock draft thread.

 

[Royal Doulton]

1. LDU
2. DOW
3. RAYNOR
4. CERRA
5. BRAYSHAW
6. STEPHENSON
7. BONAR
8. COFFIELD
9.D.FOGARTY
10.J.HIGGINS
11. BRANDER
12. H.CLARK
13. L.O'BRIEN
14. HOULAHAN
15. CONSTABLE
16.MURPHY

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[Yojimbo]

apologies if I got that wrong.

No need for apologies man, i was asking for myself. With drafting
there is no wrong answers just varied reasoning.

 

[Leviticus]

Needs based bias: I've gone for versatile, non KPP forwards and then classy outside mids with distribution skills and a record of high production where they appear better than a versatile forward.

1. Raynor (Stringer replacement, not as big but better overhead).
2. Coffield (versatile outside mid silk, needs based ranking)
3. Stephenson (again, outside mid who runs around the defenders, dangerous when he gets forward)
4. LDU (clearance king, ready to go in 2018)
5. Dow (high production mid, ready to go in 2018)
6. Cerra (classy all round mid)
7. Clark (Hodgesque player)
8. Liam Ryan (freaky full forward / HFF, a smokey)
9. Higgins (needs based ranking, finds a lot of the ball as a forward)
10. Murphy (another highly ranked medium sized forward )
11. Bonar (tall, athletic forward, ranked lower because of injury history)
12. Richards (versatile mid type)
13. Allen (mobile forward who runs all day)
14. Zac Bailey (fast midfielder)
16. L O'Brien (highly rated outside mid)

 

[Mojorisin]

Based on needs first then ability second.

1. Stephenson
2. Coffield
3. LDU
4. Dow
5. Raynor
6. Clark
7. O'brien
8. Cerra
9. Balta
10. A. Brayshaw
11. Brander
12. Murphy
13. Allen
14. Richards
15. Ling
16. Bonar

*bonus*
Players often linked to us im not a fan of.
Higgins- dont see any point of difference and cant help but feel he is already close to his ceiling.
Constable- way to slow would get lost in the shuffle of what is already a slow list.
D. Fogarty- although he offers up glimpses of amazement he has next to no tank, and by all reports hasn't got the professionalism/drive to fix things. Alot like a stringer or francis in my mind.

Apologies about the length of the post.

 

[Gollo]

Based on needs first then ability second.

1. Stephenson
2. Coffield
3. LDU
4. Dow
5. Raynor
6. Clark
7. O'brien
8. Cerra
9. Balta
10. A. Brayshaw
11. Brander
12. Murphy
13. Allen
14. Richards
15. Ling
16. Bonar

*bonus*
Players often linked to us im not a fan of.
Higgins- dont see any point of difference and cant help but feel he is already close to his ceiling.
Constable- way to slow would get lost in the shuffle of what is already a slow list.
D. Fogarty- although he offers up glimpses of amazement he has next to no tank, and by all reports hasn't got the professionalism/drive to fix things. Alot like a stringer or francis in my mind.

Apologies about the length of the post.

How many times do I have to say that Constable is not that slow? His pace is only just below average, if that. Supposed lack of pace shouldn't be used as a factor to warn off clubs, his game style covers any deficiency in this area (for which it is minimal, anyway).

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Pretty interesting meta rankings so far. There's a tier 1, (LDU, Dow, Stephenson, Cerra, Coffield, Rayner, Brayshaw as expected), then a clear tier 2 (Bonar, Richards), then the rest are tier 3, then a few stragglers at the end. Tells me we really want one of the top 7, but if none slide we really want Bonar or Richards.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

1. Raynor
2. Fogarty
3. LDU
4. Dow
5. Bonar
6. Stephenson
7. Coffield
8. Cerra
9. Brayshaw
10. Brander
11. Murphy
12. O’Brien
13. Clark
14. Allen
15. Richards
16. Higgins

 

[Mojorisin]

How many times do I have to say that Constable is not that slow? His pace is only just below average, if that. Supposed lack of pace shouldn't be used as a factor to warn off clubs, his game style covers any deficiency in this area (for which it is minimal, anyway).

Test results dont always reflect how they use those attributes during play. My biggest pro for Constable however, is he is great by hand almost always hits his target and isnt afraid to thread the needle almost, bont like in his handballing.
Also speaking of bont. At the time of the draft i was shattered we didn't pick aish. So im definitely no expert and happy to be proven wrong.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Brander and Houlahan ranked very closely but for different reasons; Brander on the back of three people putting him 10-11, Houlahan because of 7 people putting him 13-16.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Everyone so far wants each of the top 8 at least at pick 16. Fogarty the most divisive, ranging from 2nd favourite to many people (4) not wanting him even at pick 16.

 

[DognBones]

Whatever happens in the draft, we can be pretty certain that one of our selections will be a player that no one included in their predictions - remember, Dalrymple is in charge!

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Whatever happens in the draft, we can be pretty certain that one of our selections will be a player that no one included in their predictions - remember, Dalrymple is in charge!

Pick 82?

 

[DognBones]

Pick 82?

No, I mean 9 or 16.

 

[Wizard17]

How many times do I have to say that Constable is not that slow? His pace is only just below average, if that. Supposed lack of pace shouldn't be used as a factor to warn off clubs, his game style covers any deficiency in this area (for which it is minimal, anyway).

His testing result where all pretty much the same as Patrick Cripps imo. Think he has better skills though, some of his handballs I've seen this year are godly and his kicking is good especially his finishing.

Also he is 190cm, who do we have who is big on the inside? When Bont isn't in that middle group (resting forward or whatever) we struggle against the bigger sides.

Personally if none of Cerra, Brayshaw or Coffield fall through I'd like something along the lines of this:

9 - Charlie Constable (big body amongst our smaller lighter built inside types, more skilled (bar Bont) and versatile than our other tall inside mids)
16 - Ed Richards (speed and skills)
82 - Matt Guelfi (same as above + versatile) or Liam Ryan* (goals and freak factor)

Rookie - Josh Smithson

*pending that he has improved his professionalism as much as has been stated.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

His testing result where all pretty much the same as Patrick Cripps imo. Think he has better skills though, some of his handballs I've seen this year are godly and his kicking is good especially his finishing.

Also he is 190cm, who do we have who is big on the inside? When Bont isn't in that middle group (resting forward or whatever) we struggle against the bigger sides.

Personally if none of Cerra, Brayshaw or Coffield fall through I'd like something along the lines of this:

9 - Charlie Constable (big body amongst our smaller lighter built inside types, more skilled (bar Bont) and versatile than our other tall inside mids)
16 - Ed Richards (speed and skills)
82 - Matt Guelfi (same as above + versatile) or Liam Ryan* (goals and freak factor)

Rookie - Josh Smithson

*pending that he has improved his professionalism as much as has been stated.

Problem is if he's available at 82 he hasn't, and if he has he's not available at 82

 

[CaptainMurphy]

His testing result where all pretty much the same as Patrick Cripps imo. Think he has better skills though, some of his handballs I've seen this year are godly and his kicking is good especially his finishing.

Also he is 190cm, who do we have who is big on the inside? When Bont isn't in that middle group (resting forward or whatever) we struggle against the bigger sides.

Personally if none of Cerra, Brayshaw or Coffield fall through I'd like something along the lines of this:

9 - Charlie Constable (big body amongst our smaller lighter built inside types, more skilled (bar Bont) and versatile than our other tall inside mids)
16 - Ed Richards (speed and skills)
82 - Matt Guelfi (same as above + versatile) or Liam Ryan* (goals and freak factor)

Rookie - Josh Smithson

*pending that he has improved his professionalism as much as has been stated.

You're convincing me on Constable, I must admit. I think my issue is I haven't seen the footage with these "godly" handballs you are talking about, could you link me? I think that could be the trick that does it for me, I've seen him be very good all over the ground, but not great anywhere; if he's as good on the inside as you say it'll convince me. Also how is his marking? And as you said, if we do take him I'd feel a lot more comfortable if we take a Richards or similar with some pace like we need as well.

 

[Dav1d]

You're convincing me on Constable, I must admit. I think my issue is I haven't seen the footage with these "godly" handballs you are talking about, could you link me? I think that could be the trick that does it for me, I've seen him be very good all over the ground, but not great anywhere; if he's as good on the inside as you say it'll convince me. Also how is his marking? And as you said, if we do take him I'd feel a lot more comfortable if we take a Richards or similar with some pace like we need as well.

I remember him doing a really good one to Cerra


Around 40 seconds

 

[CaptainMurphy]

His testing result where all pretty much the same as Patrick Cripps imo. Think he has better skills though, some of his handballs I've seen this year are godly and his kicking is good especially his finishing.

Also he is 190cm, who do we have who is big on the inside? When Bont isn't in that middle group (resting forward or whatever) we struggle against the bigger sides.

Personally if none of Cerra, Brayshaw or Coffield fall through I'd like something along the lines of this:

9 - Charlie Constable (big body amongst our smaller lighter built inside types, more skilled (bar Bont) and versatile than our other tall inside mids)
16 - Ed Richards (speed and skills)
82 - Matt Guelfi (same as above + versatile) or Liam Ryan* (goals and freak factor)

Rookie - Josh Smithson

*pending that he has improved his professionalism as much as has been stated.

I've had another look and I can see what you're saying with his hands - quick and great vision, seems to find someone the moment he looks up. Re: the Cripps comparisons (which always seem to crop up when talking about his deficiencies), he doesn't seem to have the tackling or ball-winning ability Cripps does. Did Cripps show this in his junior years?