Opinion Top 50 2012

[MR]

As a Richmond supporter, who watches him carefully every week, I can assure you that Jack is not going as bad as most think. Currently he is being double teamed at every contest and sometimes even triple teamed. This is all based on Vickery being injured and McGuane being a tiny presence. He isn't slotting the ones he normally does but he he will still finish the year with +60 goals.

Top 50 is a hard one, because he is giving the results, he is kicking the goals. However, consistency has been a big thing for him this year. For me, I think he would be in the unluckies, just because it's hard to ignore that he will likely finish 2nd in the Coleman race.

 

[Sidebottom2Beams]

Don't get why Beams is top 5.

Doesn't cop the hardest tag compared to Pendles and Swan.

Ablett, Cotchin, Watson all cop the number 1 tagger. Beams is top 20, not top 5.

Beams was tagged by Crowley Cotchin wasn't Lids was, was also tagged by Selwood, Carrazzo, Jones and played on Jack who was a offensive tagger AG would know if he still is now, i know he was.

Beams is averaging 34.7 possessions 3 goals a game against the top 4 teams around Collingwood, Being Sydney, Hawthorn, Adelaide and West Coast. Best on ground in 3 and maybe even the Hawthorn game where he had 36 possessions and kicked 4 goals.
Againts the top 8 teams he is averaging 34 possessions and 2.1 goals a game over 8 games and will poll brownlow votes in all but 1.Ablett, Watson and Cotchins numbers don't match these.

Since moving to the midfield full time in round 4 he is averaging 32.2 possessions a game and 1.4 goals a game. He also has had the most possessions in the league and the most effective possessions. He also missed a game and played 2 games at HF and still has more clearances than Cotchin and has kicked more goals than any other fulltime midfielder.

 

[AG]

Jack isn't a tagger but is one of our best defensive runners so he's a good challenge for anyone this year. One of the best two way runners in the league.

Beams easy top 5, AA lock, B&F favourite and I'd tip him to win the Brownlow tbh.

 

[MiloStedman]

Just wondering how you made the picture

 

[eaglespremiers]

Just wondering how you made the picture

It is quite similar to AG's last year.
Picture is made in Photoshop with approx. 150 different layers (most of them text).

 

[AG]

150 layers? holy crap

I just had 6. The top 50 logo and the four player pictures and then the excel background.

I do the majority of those lists/AA/POTY things in excel.

 

[eaglespremiers]

150 layers? holy crap

I just had 6. The top 50 logo and the four player pictures and then the excel background.

I do the majority of those lists/AA/POTY things in excel.

Unfortunately I can't get the photographer out of me.
The layers and format are quite easy to navigate anyway.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Round 21.
Please note: Hawkins jumped 20 positions because I thought I had underrated him previously.
Sidebottom dropped two (despite a good game) because that position seemed more accurate.

 

[Pie in the Sky]

Don't get why Beams is top 5.

Doesn't cop the hardest tag compared to Pendles and Swan.

Ablett, Cotchin, Watson all cop the number 1 tagger. Beams is top 20, not top 5.

Not sure why people keep saying this, has regularly been getting the number 1 tag for months. Carazzo is the only tag he hasn't comprehensively destroyed.

 

[DerpWerls]

What happened to Stanton this year?

 

[eaglespremiers]

What happened to Stanton this year?

Started like a gun but hasn't been able to match output since then.
He's not the only one but is a key example.

 

[Sidebottom2Beams]

Jack isn't a tagger but is one of our best defensive runners so he's a good challenge for anyone this year. One of the best two way runners in the league.

Beams easy top 5, AA lock, B&F favourite and I'd tip him to win the Brownlow tbh.

I put my money on J.Kennedy 3 weeks ago, i think he will get alot more votes than people think.
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[eaglespremiers]

I put my money on J.Kennedy 3 weeks ago, i think he will get alot more votes than people think.
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Jack seems more likely to get ump's votes but you never know.

 

[Jakeeboy]

Griffen not top 50? I'd say he is closer to top 30.

 

[Donakebab]

Griffen not top 50? I'd say he is closer to top 30.

Based off one game obviously, on the whole his output is massively down, not top 50 in 2012.

 

[Jakeeboy]

Based off one game obviously, on the whole his output is massively down, not top 50 in 2012.

His game was about top 5, and I have seen a few Dogs games and he has been quite good. I just struggle to see how someone who can produce that type of game isn't in the top 50.

 

[Donakebab]

His game was about top 5, and I have seen a few Dogs games and he has been quite good. I just struggle to see how someone who can produce that type of game isn't in the top 50.

Because it is based on seasons output, not potential or reputation.

 

[eaglespremiers]

From Rich v Ess:
10 - Tuck
9 - Deledio
8 - Maric
7 - Cotchin, Rance
5 - Watson
4 - Stanton

 

[MR]

From Rich v Ess:
10 - Tuck
9 - Deledio
8 - Maric
7 - Cotchin, Rance
5 - Watson
4 - Stanton

Cotchin a 7!!!! 31 Possessions, 10 marks and 6 scoring shots from a 2 possession first quarter. For me was better than Maric and on par with Deledio.

Agree with the rest.

 

[hawkman]

Cotchin a 7!!!! 31 Possessions, 10 marks and 6 scoring shots from a 2 possession first quarter. For me was better than Maric and on par with Deledio.

Agree with the rest.

He didn't use the ball well all night. You didn't mention that from those shots he kicked 0.5

 

[DG-Man]

Cotch pumped up numbers late and butchered it. Still good, but not great.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Cotchin disposal efficiency wasn't even 50%. Good player but a bit overated. Not elite.

 

[Barnzy]

Cotchin disposal efficiency wasn't even 50%. Good player but a bit overated. Not elite.

If Cotchin is not elite, who is? Maybe 1 or 2 players in Ablett and Franklin?

 

[kaiserchief13]

If Cotchin is not elite, who is? Maybe 1 or 2 players in Ablett and Franklin?

And Pendlebury

 

[MR]

He had the yips, Franklin is highly criticized for his goal-kicking accuracy yet many rate him as the best player in the AFL. I wouldn't take much from his DE% as it was mainly from his missed shots. He was still one of our most influential players.