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Lingsface

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Barring injury young Ashcroft will be top 20 with a bullet this time next year

Re this list McCluggage needs to be much higher and Zac Bailey deserves a spot
Young Ashcroft top 20? I think his older brother might be a better chance.
 

bradfisher14

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  1. Patrick Cripps
  2. Jeremy Cameron
  3. Clayton Oliver
  4. Lachie Neale
  5. Marcus Bontempelli
  6. Tom Stewart
  7. Charlie Curnow
  8. Christian Petracca
  9. Tom Lynch
  10. Steven May
  11. Tom Hawkins
  12. Max Gawn
  13. Callum Mills
  14. Shai Bolton
  15. Andrew Brayshaw
  16. Jamie Elliott
  17. Touk Miller
  18. Jacob Weitering
  19. Tom Papley
  20. Charlie Cameron
  21. Sam Walsh
  22. Aaron Naughton
  23. Jack Steele
  24. Darcy Moore
  25. Patrick Dangerfield
  26. Connor Rozee
  27. Nick Vlastuin
  28. Toby Greene
  29. Tom Barrass
  30. Josh Dunkley
  31. Harry McKay
  32. Brayden Maynard
  33. Zac Merrett
  34. Sam Taylor
  35. Adam Saad
  36. Sean Darcy
  37. Dylan Grimes
  38. Jordan De Goey
  39. Isaac Smith
  40. Hugh McCluggage
  41. Angus Brayshaw
  42. Ollie Wines
  43. Tyson Stengle
  44. Tim English
  45. Alex Pearce
  46. Bailey Fritsch
  47. James Sicily
  48. Marc Blicavs
  49. Jayden Short
  50. Rory Laird
 

Walter H White

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1. Oliver
2. J Cameron
3. Bontempelli
4. Cripps
5. Stewart
6. Neale
7. Petracca
8. Greene
9. Gawn
10. Warner
11. Miller
12. Curnow
13. May
14. Hawkins
15. Steele
16. Walsh
17. De Goey
18. Lynch
19. Bolton
20. McLuggage
21. Mills
22. Dunkley
23. Dangerfield
24. McKay
25. A Brayshaw
26. Merrett
27. Rozee
28. Crisp
29. Wines
30. Moore
31. Fyfe
32. N Daicos
33. Heeney
34. Macrae
35. Liberatore
36. Naughton
37. D Martin
38. C Cameron
39. J Sinclair
40. Papley
41. Blicavs
42. Davies-Uniake
43. Sicily
44. S Taylor
45. Grimes
46. C Guthrie
47. Saad
48. Barrass
49. Weitering (would have higher, couldn't be bothered re-ordering list)
50. Rich

Ordering probably not 100% accurate the further down the list I go. Done fairly quickly so no doubt I've missed some deserving players.
 

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Wojcinski

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Jeremy Cameron at number one is a joke mate. So is Jordan Ridley and no Grimes or Vlaustin . No Daniel Rioli. And Bolton is easily top 6. Guthrie shouldn't be on the list either.
Here ya go buddy, this is my top 50;

1. Shai Bolton
2. Tom Lynch
3. Dion Prestia
4. Dustin Martin
5. Nick Vlastiun
6. Dylan Grimes
7. Daniel Rioli
8. Jayden Short
9. Toby Nankervis
10. Noah Balta
11. Jacob Hopper
12. Tim Taranto
13. Liam Baker
14. Robbie Tarrant
15. Jack Reiwoldt
16. Trent Cotchin
17. Marlion Pickett
18. Nathan Broad
19. Kamdyn McIntosh
20. Ivan Soldo
21. Jason Castagna
22. Jack Graham
23. Tylar Young
24. Mate Colina
25. Ben Miller
26. Rhyan Mansell
27. Jack Ross
28. Samson Ryan
29. Noah Cumberland
30. Bigoa Nyuon
31. Thomson Dow
32. Hugo Ralphsmith
33. Maurice Rioli
34. Jacob Bauer
35. Tyler Sonsie
36. Sam Banks
37. Josh Gibcus
38. Tom Brown
39. Judson Clarke
40. Steely Green
41. Kaleb Smith
42. Seth Campbell
43. Mabior Chol
44. Brandon Ellis
45. Callum Coleman-Jones
46. Jack Higgins
47. Dan Butler
48. Tyson Stengle
49. Kane Lambert
50. David Astbury
 

Lingsface

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1. Oliver
2. J Cameron
3. Bontempelli
4. Cripps
5. Stewart
6. Neale
7. Petracca
8. Greene
9. Gawn
10. Warner
11. Miller
12. Curnow
13. May
14. Hawkins
15. Steele
16. Walsh
17. De Goey
18. Lynch
19. Bolton
20. McLuggage
21. Mills
22. Dunkley
23. Dangerfield
24. McKay
25. A Brayshaw
26. Merrett
27. Rozee
28. Crisp
29. Wines
30. Moore
31. Fyfe
32. N Daicos
33. Heeney
34. Macrae
35. Liberatore
36. Naughton
37. D Martin
38. C Cameron
39. J Sinclair
40. Papley
41. Blicavs
42. Davies-Uniake
43. Sicily
44. S Taylor
45. Grimes
46. C Guthrie
47. Saad
48. Barrass
49. Weitering (would have higher, couldn't be bothered re-ordering list)
50. Rich

Ordering probably not 100% accurate the further down the list I go. Done fairly quickly so no doubt I've missed some deserving players.
I like this well done a very solid list.
 

danster168

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1. Oliver
2. J Cameron
3. Bontempelli
4. Cripps
5. Stewart
6. Neale
7. Petracca
8. Greene
9. Gawn
10. Warner
11. Miller
12. Curnow
13. May
14. Hawkins
15. Steele
16. Walsh
17. De Goey
18. Lynch
19. Bolton
20. McLuggage
21. Mills
22. Dunkley
23. Dangerfield
24. McKay
25. A Brayshaw
26. Merrett
27. Rozee
28. Crisp
29. Wines
30. Moore
31. Fyfe
32. N Daicos
33. Heeney
34. Macrae
35. Liberatore
36. Naughton
37. D Martin
38. C Cameron
39. J Sinclair
40. Papley
41. Blicavs
42. Davies-Uniake
43. Sicily
44. S Taylor
45. Grimes
46. C Guthrie
47. Saad
48. Barrass
49. Weitering (would have higher, couldn't be bothered re-ordering list)
50. Rich

Ordering probably not 100% accurate the further down the list I go. Done fairly quickly so no doubt I've missed some deserving players.
Great list. Can't really fault anything as its your list. I'd probably go McKay over Mcluggage personally. And I'd probably put true game winners like Charlie Cameron and Papley over a guy like Wines who I've never really seen as a match winner and he looked to struggle with his spread from the contest this season. I like the spots of Warner, May and Dunkley.
 

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1. Oliver
2. J Cameron
3. Bontempelli
4. Cripps
5. Stewart
6. Neale
7. Petracca
8. Greene
9. Gawn
10. Warner
11. Miller
12. Curnow
13. May
14. Hawkins
15. Steele
16. Walsh
17. De Goey
18. Lynch
19. Bolton
20. McLuggage
21. Mills
22. Dunkley
23. Dangerfield
24. McKay
25. A Brayshaw
26. Merrett
27. Rozee
28. Crisp
29. Wines
30. Moore
31. Fyfe
32. N Daicos
33. Heeney
34. Macrae
35. Liberatore
36. Naughton
37. D Martin
38. C Cameron
39. J Sinclair
40. Papley
41. Blicavs
42. Davies-Uniake
43. Sicily
44. S Taylor
45. Grimes
46. C Guthrie
47. Saad
48. Barrass
49. Weitering (would have higher, couldn't be bothered re-ordering list)
50. Rich

Ordering probably not 100% accurate the further down the list I go. Done fairly quickly so no doubt I've missed some deserving players.
Nice list, only gripes are Greene and Warner. Greene just doesn't play enough and Warner has had one good season (half season at that). Mills easily higher than the Chad. Andy Brayshaw should be top 20 too.
 

FlowersByIrene

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Thought I would have a crack and it’s a lot harder than I thought. I’m sure I’ve missed some and open to changes so let loose on me (never doubted).

  1. Jeremy Cameron
  2. Marcus Bontempelli
  3. Lachie Neale
  4. Christian Petracca
  5. Tom Stewart
  6. Patrick Cripps
  7. Touk Miller
  8. Toby Greene
  9. Jack Steele
  10. Clayton Oliver
  11. Harry Mckay
  12. Zach Merrett
  13. Max Gawn
  14. Sam Walsh
  15. Andrew Brayshaw
  16. Callum Millls
  17. Tom Hawkins
  18. Connor Rozee
  19. Ollie Wines
  20. Jack McRae
  21. Tom Lynch
  22. Steven May
  23. Issac Heeney
  24. Charlie Curnow
  25. Shai Bolton
  26. Jack Crisp
  27. Patrick Dangerfield
  28. Travis Boak
  29. Darcy Moore
  30. Nat Fyfe
  31. Jeremy McGovern
  32. Nick Daicos
  33. Charlie Cameron
  34. Mitch Duncan
  35. Tom Barrass
  36. Luke Parker
  37. Hayden Young
  38. Tim English
  39. Dane Rampe
  40. Lachie Whitfield
  41. Noah Anderson
  42. Hugh Mcluggage
  43. Jordan Ridley
  44. Cam Guthrie
  45. Caleb Serong
  46. Zak Butters
  47. Aaron Naughton
  48. Darcy Parish
  49. Tom Mitchell
  50. Sean Darcy
Tom Stewart are you on drugs?
 

Yoda_

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Few really good lists, but few things standing out;

impact is over riding actual output. Guys like Jack McCrae, Mitch Duncan/Cam Gutherie, Sam Walsh, Zac Merrett, Jack Steele are being criminally under rated. Steele was one of the top rated players in the comp and should he play at a Collingwood or Carlton would be considered one of the best in the league.

Flashy defenders are another who are over rated imho. Siciliy, Stewart, Docherty, Ridley are as good, but not better (ok, maybe Stewart) than Adam Saad, Blake Hardwick.

The hybrid types seem to be getting mixed up between positions, ie Heeney the forward is as good as any sml/med fwd in the game but Heeney the fwd/mid is not that great (first 6 weeks was incredible, yes!). Unsure if anyone has heard of Dylan Moore but he along with Marcus Bontempelli was the only player to ave. 20 + 1 goal a game yet no mention of him in any of these lists.

Feel that a few guys are getting into the 2022/23 lists based on previous seasons, Jordan Ridley being one whose 2022 was no where near as good as his 2021 yet has made a number of these in recent pages. Imho not on his most previous seasons form.
 

Walter H White

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Nice list, only gripes are Greene and Warner. Greene just doesn't play enough and Warner has had one good season (half season at that). Mills easily higher than the Chad. Andy Brayshaw should be top 20 too.
All fair points. The Warner pick was partly weighted towards where I think he will be in the next year. But I honestly think he's that good.
 

Lingsface

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Few really good lists, but few things standing out;

impact is over riding actual output. Guys like Jack McCrae, Mitch Duncan/Cam Gutherie, Sam Walsh, Zac Merrett, Jack Steele are being criminally under rated. Steele was one of the top rated players in the comp and should he play at a Collingwood or Carlton would be considered one of the best in the league.

Flashy defenders are another who are over rated imho. Siciliy, Stewart, Docherty, Ridley are as good, but not better (ok, maybe Stewart) than Adam Saad, Blake Hardwick.

The hybrid types seem to be getting mixed up between positions, ie Heeney the forward is as good as any sml/med fwd in the game but Heeney the fwd/mid is not that great (first 6 weeks was incredible, yes!). Unsure if anyone has heard of Dylan Moore but he along with Marcus Bontempelli was the only player to ave. 20 + 1 goal a game yet no mention of him in any of these lists.

Feel that a few guys are getting into the 2022/23 lists based on previous seasons, Jordan Ridley being one whose 2022 was no where near as good as his 2021 yet has made a number of these in recent pages. Imho not on his most previous seasons form.
The hybrid types do get rating points because of this… they have more value as they can be played in multiple positions.
Heeney is t as good as midfielder as liberatore but can you throw him forward to kick 5 as well? No.
 

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danster168

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All fair points. The Warner pick was partly weighted towards where I think he will be in the next year. But I honestly think he's that good.
Nah I agree with Warner being better than Mills. Warner wins games. Mills keeps you in games. I'll take the match winner that can break lines. Mills can't break the lines.
 

danster168

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Few really good lists, but few things standing out;

impact is over riding actual output. Guys like Jack McCrae, Mitch Duncan/Cam Gutherie, Sam Walsh, Zac Merrett, Jack Steele are being criminally under rated. Steele was one of the top rated players in the comp and should he play at a Collingwood or Carlton would be considered one of the best in the league.

Flashy defenders are another who are over rated imho. Siciliy, Stewart, Docherty, Ridley are as good, but not better (ok, maybe Stewart) than Adam Saad, Blake Hardwick.

The hybrid types seem to be getting mixed up between positions, ie Heeney the forward is as good as any sml/med fwd in the game but Heeney the fwd/mid is not that great (first 6 weeks was incredible, yes!). Unsure if anyone has heard of Dylan Moore but he along with Marcus Bontempelli was the only player to ave. 20 + 1 goal a game yet no mention of him in any of these lists.

Feel that a few guys are getting into the 2022/23 lists based on previous seasons, Jordan Ridley being one whose 2022 was no where near as good as his 2021 yet has made a number of these in recent pages. Imho not on his most previous seasons form.
Good call on Dylan Moore. Is probably a top 35 player.
 

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The hybrid types do get rating points because of this… they have more value as they can be played in multiple positions.
Heeney is t as good as midfielder as liberatore but can you throw him forward to kick 5 as well? No.
I don't think he is a top 10 forward or a top 20 midfielder though. Might be over rated by others but don't think he is as consistent as he needs to be to be considered a top 50 player in the comp.
 

danster168

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Maybe... hardly the 5th best player in the league.
I think if you're the best defender in the league (probably Steven May) then I think you can lay claim to being a top 5 player? Midfielders grow on trees. if you're getting juicy minutes in the midfield you're basically going to get dropped if you don't get 25 touches a game.
 
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Top 50



A.Brayshaw

L.Neale

C.Oliver

A.Naughton

T.Miller

P.Cripps

H.McKay

M.Bontipelli

C.Rozee

J.Cameron

S.May

S.Darcy

T.Stewart

C.Cameron

C.Petracca

C.Curnow

C.Serong

T.Lynch

S.Bolton

T.Barras

T.English

O.Wines

T.Mitchell

B.Cox

K.Pickett

J.Witts

N.Anderson

R.Laird

N.Fyfe

M.georgiades

J.McRae

C.Warner

J.Sicily

T.Stengel

J.Sinclair

J.Simpkin

M.King

C.Mills

M.Gawn

S.Taylor

J.Kelly

J.Steele

T.Papley

H.Young

T.Hawkins

J.Newcomb

T.Greene

C.Daniel

M.Rowell

C.Warner

I’ve picked it based on impact on the 2023 season.
I’m sure there’s a couple oversights and order discretions but tried to recognise impact in all parts of the field.
Looking at some lists surely the 22U22 captain BnF winning league MVP(youngest in 20 years)should be projecting as a top 20 player in 2023.
 

danster168

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Top 50



A.Brayshaw

L.Neale

C.Oliver

A.Naughton

T.Miller

P.Cripps

H.McKay

M.Bontipelli

C.Rozee

J.Cameron

S.May

S.Darcy

T.Stewart

C.Cameron

C.Petracca

C.Curnow

C.Serong

T.Lynch

S.Bolton

T.Barras

T.English

O.Wines

T.Mitchell

B.Cox

K.Pickett

J.Witts

N.Anderson

R.Laird

N.Fyfe

M.georgiades

J.McRae

C.Warner

J.Sicily

T.Stengel

J.Sinclair

J.Simpkin

M.King

C.Mills

M.Gawn

S.Taylor

J.Kelly

J.Steele

T.Papley

H.Young

T.Hawkins

J.Newcomb

T.Greene

C.Daniel

M.Rowell

C.Warner

I’ve picked it based on impact on the 2023 season.
I’m sure there’s a couple oversights and order discretions but tried to recognise impact in all parts of the field.
Looking at some lists surely the 22U22 captain BnF winning league MVP(youngest in 20 years)should be projecting as a top 20 player in 2023.
Honestly, I stopped reading after you had Brayshaw at number 1, and looked over and saw that you were a Freo fan.
 
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Honestly, I stopped reading after you had Brayshaw at number 1, and looked over and saw that you were a Freo fan.
Glad to know, I would be worried if I was on the same page as you.
You lost all credibility with your carry on over Luke Jackson.
 
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danster168

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Glad to know, I would be worried if I was on the same page as you.
You lost all credibility with your carry on over Luke Jackson.
I stand by everything. but back to the list, having Brayshaw as 1. How so? he's a 10-20 player. He works hard which I like but he doesn't have the power of some of the better mids in the comp.
 

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