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Who are these girls, forgive my ignorance, but I don't think there from old blighty.

Some pics ?

Anyway, I have a question for all you officianados.....well a proposition anyway.

We are looking at ending up with lots of rucks around the 200cm mark , or there abouts, and it appears the trend is to for "monsters" as the article mentions, now here is the theory:

Would it be possible to maintain 4 highly agile players who can slot in all over the ground and actually play genuine key positions not just capably but genuinely, who can all ruck within their area and simply wear down the oppositions dedicated rucks.

Obviously there are going to be pros and cons on this, however there might be something in this. We are really building a fleet of BIG, players, with Kreuzer coming on this only adds to it. Your thoughts....
 
I love Greg, good bloke, done some great things for the Carlton Football Club, but whats he thinking??? Hawkins is all over Gale!
 

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audas said:
Who are these girls, forgive my ignorance, but I don't think there from old blighty.

Some pics ?

Anyway, I have a question for all you officianados.....well a proposition anyway.

We are looking at ending up with lots of rucks around the 200cm mark , or there abouts, and it appears the trend is to for "monsters" as the article mentions, now here is the theory:

Would it be possible to maintain 4 highly agile players who can slot in all over the ground and actually play genuine key positions not just capably but genuinely, who can all ruck within their area and simply wear down the oppositions dedicated rucks.

Obviously there are going to be pros and cons on this, however there might be something in this. We are really building a fleet of BIG, players, with Kreuzer coming on this only adds to it. Your thoughts....
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Aisake and Setanta practically count as midfielders tbh. They're faster than some of the smaller guys at the club. So i see no reason why they, Hampson and Kreuzer cannot all be in the same side.

Would Carlton pull a surprise on draft day? ;)
 
Blue Dimension said:
Aisake and Setanta practically count as midfielders tbh. They're faster than some of the smaller guys at the club. So i see no reason why they, Hampson and Kreuzer cannot all be in the same side.

Would Carlton pull a surprise on draft day? ;)
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Wouldn't be that much of a surprise really. Cotchin is a very talented footballer. Not much in it at all.
 

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I think Cotchin would make Fev a better player. He delivers the ball so well to the leading forward. I also think Kreuzer might take away a little from the value of Hampson. You can only have one ruckman at a time. I'd like to see Hampson (eventually) take the ruck for 3/4 of the game and have fill ins/back ups take the other 1/4.

I know plenty think that it is a fine line and drafting for need = drafting Kreuzer. I don't. I think it IS a fine line, I like Cotchin more, AND I think drafting for need = drafting Cotchin.

We just don't have a HFF who can go on ball. And YES a Kreuzer/Hampson combination is enticing but in reality Hampson (I think) will be a better tap ruckman than Kreuzer. Which will mean he will play there a lot more. Which means Kreuzer becomes kind of a back up ruck/resting forward. He will be terrific, but I just don't see that working as well as taking Cotchin works.

I'd rather let Hampson really take over the ruck, and get him a back up ruck (either from that we have now or draft one/trade for one later).
 
Yeah I can see why you might be changing your mind. I have too. BUT, I am back to where I started on this. I think Cotchin is better. I'd prefer to get the better player. Begin and end the debate there. But if the debate must go on, then...

I think footy is a game for midfielders and kpp. I also don't rate ruckmen as highly. Not even the best of them. Not because of their ability. More because the game simply wears them out. Injures them. Renders their productive years to be far shorter.

I really fear watching Kreuzer turn into yet another injury riddled ruckmen while I watch Cotch burn for the Tiges. This is a possibility I think people pass over too quickly. The game wears ruckmen out.

I don't think there would be a more beautiful sight in footy than seeing Cotchin pass it to Fev.
 

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As if its a competition between Hawkins and Gale.

Hawkins by the length of the straight!

Harder question is Hawkins or Jessica Alba. Now thats a tough call.
 
Gilly1972 said:
Windows, that pretty much summed up my thinking up until trade week....now i'm not so sure
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Its been rumoured pretty strongly the Blues are very keen on Cotchin (see my PD ;) ) and your interest in Kreuzer has waivered since DC.

Although, if you rate them both about the same, you'd be smarter to go with Kreuzer IMO. You have a good midfield already, and you can get more midfielders to supplement that group quite easily. Alot harder to get quality ruckmen to partner Murphy, Gibbs etc in the future, especially if you climb up that ladder like you expect.
 
windows said:
Yeah I can see why you might be changing your mind. I have too. BUT, I am back to where I started on this. I think Cotchin is better. I'd prefer to get the better player. Begin and end the debate there. But if the debate must go on, then...

I think footy is a game for midfielders and kpp. I also don't rate ruckmen as highly. Not even the best of them. Not because of their ability. More because the game simply wears them out. Injures them. Renders their productive years to be far shorter.

I really fear watching Kreuzer turn into yet another injury riddled ruckmen while I watch Cotch burn for the Tiges. This is a possibility I think people pass over too quickly. The game wears ruckmen out.

I don't think there would be a more beautiful sight in footy than seeing Cotchin pass it to Fev.
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I can't agree more strongly with the last statement :). I think 20% of Cotch's ineffective kicks were because Bongo couldn't run to meet the pass in time.;) Fev would be on the end of 8 darts a game :thumbsu:
 
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You think Judd is hotter than Gale and Hawkins? :eek: ;)
TOA. said:
As if its a competition between Hawkins and Gale.

Hawkins by the length of the straight!

Harder question is Hawkins or Jessica Alba. Now thats a tough call.
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Scarlett Johannson>>>>Biel>>>>>>Hawkins>>Alba.
 
windows said:
Yeah I can see why you might be changing your mind. I have too. BUT, I am back to where I started on this. I think Cotchin is better. I'd prefer to get the better player. Begin and end the debate there. But if the debate must go on, then...

I think footy is a game for midfielders and kpp. I also don't rate ruckmen as highly. Not even the best of them. Not because of their ability. More because the game simply wears them out. Injures them. Renders their productive years to be far shorter.

I really fear watching Kreuzer turn into yet another injury riddled ruckmen while I watch Cotch burn for the Tiges. This is a possibility I think people pass over too quickly. The game wears ruckmen out.

I don't think there would be a more beautiful sight in footy than seeing Cotchin pass it to Fev.
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Yeh I agree there. I'll be spewing if he continues to get injured like Kosi, but I think he is very important in St.Kilda's structure, just like I think Kruzer would be in 3 years time if he can stay out on the park. The fact that his attitude stands out sways me a little more.

Cotchin would be a good player but anyone with half a brain would agree that drafting Kruzer is the way to go, espically when we lost Kennedy. I just hope he grows an extra 3cm.

For the past 3 years we have been drafting a midfielder with our first pick, and the best available talent. It's time we start drafting players that will fill our void around the ground, espically when people think Kruzer and Cotchin are even on talent.
 

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