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Sounds like Plugger is a bit on the heavy side and has been triggered.

Also why has every new thread on the GD board had politics or race bought up unnecessarily?

I'd imagine most people would find those Toxic Fat ads disgusting to watch regardless of what weight they are.
 
No need for toxic fat ads

just have BMI calculators where ever junk food is sold, with an alarm "step away from the counter" and immediately uploaded to youtube
As pointed out earlier, BMI is bullshit. Now if there were accurate scales for fat % you could just stand on (although for this, even the wildly inaccurate home one's would do), then those would work.

Really it's sugar (and carbs) in general that are the issue. Tax sugar heavily, use the money raised to subsidise low carb (including meat) and we'd have a healthier, slimmer, more long lived population. If people still want sugary stuff as a treat it wouldn't hurt, but it should be too much to be the easy to grab staple it is now.

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BMI is bullshit, but it's also accurate for a lot of people who use the excuse that it's bullshit.

I've heard a lot more fatties tell me that BMI is bullshit than body builders or prop forwards.

At my fittest and healthiest I am borderline overweight if not overweight, according to the BMI index. Doesn't mean much, but if I ever start creeping into the high 20s, wearing size 34 pants etc. it's because I'm fat. Saying 'well you could be an elite athlete with a BMI of 30' is bullshit.
 
Yeh sure it doesn't work for athletes but the average Joe who is 6 foot and 100 kilos probably is fat. Those ads make my stomach turn TBH. Not a fan of fat people but it's their choice
 
As pointed out earlier, BMI is bullshit. Now if there were accurate scales for fat % you could just stand on (although for this, even the wildly inaccurate home one's would do), then those would work.

Really it's sugar (and carbs) in general that are the issue. Tax sugar heavily, use the money raised to subsidise low carb (including meat) and we'd have a healthier, slimmer, more long lived population. If people still want sugary stuff as a treat it wouldn't hurt, but it should be too much to be the easy to grab staple it is now.

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I'd have people swipe their medicare cards when they purchase food, drink, tobacco, tatts and booze

I think many would change their habits if they felt they were been monitored
 

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I'd have people swipe their medicare cards when they purchase food, drink, tobacco, tatts and booze

I think many would change their habits if they felt they were been monitored
I don’t about Tatts, but the rest definitely. Anyone then getting health complications from their choices, that can afford it, are forced to contribute to the cost of care (if can afford so no one is denied care, but those who have health issues and on welfare and have made bad choices make at least some of that instead vouchers that can only go to healthy food).
 
When I think of obese people I think of those land whales that can barely walk a few steps without needing a rest and wash themselves with a rag on a stick.

Classifying people as obese when they are slightly overweight just doesn't seem right.
 

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Obese is usually a BMI of 30-40. Mobridly obese is 40+.

Given the average height is 176cm that puts you in the range of 93-124kg. Unless you're in the Wallabies front row that is the territory of the seriously overweight.

Flankers like Pocock and Hooper are barely 30 and props & hookers are low to mid 30s. Backs are usually 25-30. Forwards in rugby are trained for strength to the point that it impacts other physical attributes like speed and agility but they can still run out 80 minutes even if they're not winning any time trials. Yet people who sit at home on the couch and work up a sweat when they need to walk up a flight of stairs hold up 'yeah I'm average height and 100kg but what about professional athletes' like it means something.

Those bmi calculators for height weight are bullshit. AFL players have more muscle than your average couch potato.

AFL players can bench press 100kg, run 15km in a game and do repeat 11-13 second 100s. Can your average couch potato?

The average height in the AFL is also 188cm.
 
Sugar tax is coming, about bloody time too.
Except most people are fat because they eat too much carbs; breads, pasta etc.

Go to Asia and they are way skinnier. (obviously poorer but there is a lot less wheat in their foods)
 
Except most people are fat because they eat too much carbs; breads, pasta etc.

Go to Asia and they are way skinnier. (obviously poorer but there is a lot less wheat in their foods)

They're also fat because they eat too much and don't exercise.

A carton of 24 cans of Coke is about $15 at the supermarket, give or take. A single 375mL can from a vending machine is about $2.

Whack a 20% tax on that and it becomes $18 and $2.40. I doubt it will make a difference.
 
When I think of obese people I think of those land whales that can barely walk a few steps without needing a rest and wash themselves with a rag on a stick.

Classifying people as obese when they are slightly overweight just doesn't seem right.
It's my understanding that it's an actual term for a medical condition defined by professionals though. The fact obesity has been normalized and morbid obesity (which I think is what you're thinking of) is the freakish outlier doesn't really factor into how the term is used in that context. Of course the cutoff is somewhat arbitrary. I assume it's based on where the health effects have been determined to kick in the most dramatically.

I think people in general underestimate the health effects of being overweight. From the heights of internet knowledge (wikipedia) i've found that a clinical study found that in women a BMI of 32 (30 is the obese cutoff in the West afaik) is associated with a doubled mortality rate and another one found being in the obese range reduces life expectancy of two to four years.
 
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