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Use the Force, that's the best way to judge how the rebuild's going.
Sam Kerridge is definitely the hardest one to pick for me, I think he's so close. With his sort of role as a midfield rotation/half forward flanker I see his position as the most volatile, with people like Charlie Curnow, Liam Sumner, Jed Lamb, Jack Silvagni competing with him for the spot. I couldn't guarentee he'll be there on the other side of the rebuild playing a game every week, but I think at minimum he'll be that player you put in every week to round off the bench and might miss one or two or three games a year for team dynamic. Similar to what Wright is for me now.Great work FBI - loving this thread.
You ask a good question in the poll and it is something I've been tracking myself as the season progresses.
I've classified our "youth" into a number of different categories - with the top tier being those who I can confidently say will be there on the other side of this rebuild.
Obviously the categories are somewhat fluid, with players able to move up and down throughout the year...as it stands right now I have 6 players in that top tier:
- Patrick Cripps
- Sam Docherty
- Jacob Weitering
- Lachie Plowman
- Ciaran Byrne
- Sam Kerridge
Sam Kerridge is definitely the hardest one to pick for me, I think he's so close. With his sort of role as a midfield rotation/half forward flanker I see his position as the most volatile, with people like Charlie Curnow, Liam Sumner, Jed Lamb, Jack Silvagni competing with him for the spot. I couldn't guarentee he'll be there on the other side of the rebuild playing a game every week, but I think at minimum he'll be that player you put in every week to round off the bench and might miss one or two or three games a year for team dynamic. Similar to what Wright is for me now.
Which one Shan?Can we get some labels on those graphs please? I have NFI what I'm looking at.
I've been a fan of Sam's since before he came over from Adelaide and I think very quickly he's shown his value to this side. Very solid all round footballer but I do agree he'd be last on the list I provided.
Comparing him to some of the other names in that group isn't fair given the talent there. There is no comparison to be made. He's not someone who we're relying on or expecting to develop into a star as a few of the others project, but I do I see him as being of enormous value, both through the rebuild and on the other side.
I don't see him as competing with any of the players you've named. Has spent the majority of this year on the wing but his flexibility is a real advantage insofar as he'd be a very capable contributor in a number of positions - not just through the midfield, but up forward too.
I said at the time he came across that he's as certain as you can be to play 100-150 solid games for the Carlton Football Club and nothing I've seen has made me rethink that stance. He won't be a star but he's as tough as they come, a real leader, and should be a very valuable role player at the other end of a rebuild.
Apparently we are one of the older teams running around. I don't place much stock in those things often but in saying that I guess it will be a challenge of sorts for BB to bring the kids in and retain the results we are currently getting, of course Remembering BB doesn't place stock on wins more so effort - clever isn't he !!!
Definitely a speedbump today, but we havent been knocked back.*BUMP*
Thought we might need to remind ourselves we're only 12 games in. As I said in another thread, for all the good we have achieved this year, lets not throw it away on one game of footy.
An old Carlton administration would have thought we were premiership contenders after knocking off Geelong, dropped everything and ran with that idea.Definitely a speedbump today, but we havent been knocked back.
Keep moving forward to the end goal.
An old Carlton administration would have thought we were premiership contenders after knocking off Geelong, dropped everything and ran with that idea.
The great thing with this new Carlton is our on and off-field visions are crystal clear. SOS and Bolts know exactly what sort of list they want to create and will refuse to get ahead of themselves in pursuit of that end goal.
It's entirely likely we'll get worse before we keep getting better. Our good results this year have come off the back of mature aged players peforming way above expectations within a system geared towards their strengths. Common knowledge would suggest we need to get 30-40 games (at a minimum) into guys like SOJ, Curnow, McKay etc before they will perform a role consistently.Well said RB.
At the end of day we're 12 games into a rebuild and doing better than anyone predicted we would.
We're also getting games into a number of our younger players, guys developing in the VFL and we still have C.Curnow and McKay recovering from illness and injury.
It's entirely likely we'll get worse before we keep getting better. Our good results this year have come off the back of mature aged players peforming way above expectations within a system geared towards their strengths. Common knowledge would suggest we need to get 30-40 games (at a minimum) into guys like SOJ, Curnow, McKay etc before they will perform a role consistently.
Patience is the key and I think Bolts is well and truly aware of where we sit.
It's entirely likely we'll get worse before we keep getting better. Our good results this year have come off the back of mature aged players peforming way above expectations within a system geared towards their strengths. Common knowledge would suggest we need to get 30-40 games (at a minimum) into guys like SOJ, Curnow, McKay etc before they will perform a role consistently.
Patience is the key and I think Bolts is well and truly aware of where we sit.
I mean who knows what Bolts can get out of a committed bunch of kids, but people need to understand we still have a lot of players to move on and replacing them with kids would typically correspond to a move down the ladder before moving up.agree. we are still playing players that wont be there in 12-24 months and have a lot of kids that havent played yet. mckay cuningham silvagni boekhurst curnow jaksch etc will need time and will be inconsistent. if we get a number of more young kids in to side next year i can see us around the bottom 2-3 next season. thats okay if we can see a future and i believe we can
Think I read SOS has the most vfl goals for this year's first year players.Completely agree with this.
Hopefully Charlie comes back soon after the bye so we can get games into him.
Then SOS and McKay later in the year.
We are right on track.