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Wouldn't include Ballas in that list but otherwise spot on. Also not sure on Lewis Jetta. Yeah he's an upgrade on Pearce but at what cost? Sydney won't let him for peanuts.
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Our forward line sucks.
We repeatedly have to work so hard to get the ball toward goals only to have it rebound straight out again.
& I don't put the blame just at Suma's feet - I blame Lloyd & Bond - we just don't have any quality talls.
Walters is the only forward that consistently got into our best players.
Ballas is a good player, however has regressed this season. Pav is past it. Taberner isn't there yet. Our resting ruck invariably sucks. Crozier is far from being a Luke Breust it's not funny.
It is a real indictment upon our list that we are forced to persist with playing Mayne as a marking target - he's shorter than Mundy & has forgotten how to mark and kick straight for the past 2 seasons.
It pisses me that West Coast have recycled straight back up to the top again but you have to acknowledge that their list manager has been drafting plenty of talls.
Our list strategy of stockpiling mids doesn't work.
We repeatedly have to work so hard to get the ball toward goals only to have it rebound straight out again.
& I don't put the blame just at Suma's feet - I blame Lloyd & Bond - we just don't have any quality talls.
Walters is the only forward that consistently got into our best players.
Ballas is a good player, however has regressed this season. Pav is past it. Taberner isn't there yet. Our resting ruck invariably sucks. Crozier is far from being a Luke Breust it's not funny.
It is a real indictment upon our list that we are forced to persist with playing Mayne as a marking target - he's shorter than Mundy & has forgotten how to mark and kick straight for the past 2 seasons.
It pisses me that West Coast have recycled straight back up to the top again but you have to acknowledge that their list manager has been drafting plenty of talls.
Our list strategy of stockpiling mids doesn't work.
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The problem is that now they know we're desperate for a tall, it was painfully obvious today.
The fact Tabs was the one subbed out with Fyfe on one leg, speaks volumes that he is a long long term prospect.
I literally thought you lost tonight through lack of talent, nothing else. Lyon can coach and he's finally realised he needs to score more. I thought you were let down by 2 many b graders in one side expected to do A grade things. Pierce, Deboer, Dawson, Taberner (he could turn out all-right but wasn't up to it tonight), Griffen, Crozier (another who may be ok, I don't know him well enough, but wasn't up to it tonight), Mzungu, Barlow.
They can all fill a role in a good side but too many B graders in one side for tonight and it showed. Dropped marks, wayward kicking, stupid mistakes under pressure. I'm not sure where your youth is at but you need to get some really good drafts in my opinion. You need to set an age barrier though.
If you could replace a couple of the above with better talent in one season, I think you'll get another crack next year. If not you're in trouble. The age of your main player list is really getting up there. You obviously have to go all out for a KPF. I know you've tried before without success but you simply cannot win a premiership next year without one.
They can all fill a role in a good side but too many B graders in one side for tonight and it showed. Dropped marks, wayward kicking, stupid mistakes under pressure. I'm not sure where your youth is at but you need to get some really good drafts in my opinion. You need to set an age barrier though.
If you could replace a couple of the above with better talent in one season, I think you'll get another crack next year. If not you're in trouble. The age of your main player list is really getting up there. You obviously have to go all out for a KPF. I know you've tried before without success but you simply cannot win a premiership next year without one.
Would hope we see what we can get for any of the following:
Clarke
DeBoer
Suban
Mayne
Gu
Ballas - love him but we may have to give quality. Can't see it happening.
Barlow
Croz
Must get in McCarthy and Bennell
Clarke
DeBoer
Suban
Mayne
Gu
Ballas - love him but we may have to give quality. Can't see it happening.
Barlow
Croz
Must get in McCarthy and Bennell
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Our forward line will not just be fixed by getting Mccarthy only, especially if Pav retires...hope we don't expect one person to be our saviour and turn us from averaging 70 points to 100 plus
A big part of the problem is delivery. Many of the players we have discussed over and over just deliver the ball so poorly to leading forwards. Just arent able to understand 'advantage side'
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Know it's a hypothetical, but say if Collingwood offered Cloke up as a trade, what would you hand over for him? Sorry about tonight, is sad to see Pav retire, he is my favourite non Coll player of all time. Champion.
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Ballard? wtf
its hard to kick it to a forward when there is no space and the defender is right on their hammar. It takes it from taking a "kick to advantage" to a millimetre kick.
Lake barely moved out of the 50 tonight - our forwards didn't work hard enough.
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Agreed. However he will be playing on the number key defender as Pav will most likely retire, and we aren't a free scoring team.
How would fans excuses about umpiring affect the team's performance???? Oh, and the umpiring was diabolical even if you are an apologist for them and their terrible performance.
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Ballas, MDB and Suban won't be going any where, Ross just loves these blokes.
I think Clarke is certainly gone and Gu/Barlow would be players he is willing to give up.
Croz just signed a contract, won't be going any where.
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Pavlich kicked more goals than Mccarthy this year, don't expect Mccarthy to do much in the near future. The improvement will hopefully come from Bennell taking the spot of one of our shit flankers or, as Ross said in his presser, playing midfield and allowing fyfe to play forward.
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Haha, MDB? You mean one of our BOG tonight?
Mayne needs to go down back and Crozier needs more game time. I think he's harshly treated. He can ACTUALLY kick clutch goals and set shots when given the opportunity.
Suban is staying, I don't understand the hate for him on this board. I'd love at least another 6 players on our team to play with the heart he has.
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Ballantyne is untouchable, we aren't going to fix the forward line by getting rid of our second best forward.
