List Mgmt. Trade: Allen Christensen traded to Brisbane in exchange for National Draft selection no. 21

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Not sure what the source is, so it could be complete rubbish, but I read that GC are offering 380k whereas Brisbane are offering 450k, hence Christensen requesting a trade to the Lions.
That gap could easily be bridged though by GC trading a non best 18 player to us in the deal to create cap room on their end, or us agreeing to pay part of the salary. It all depends whether you can convince him to go to GC.
 
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Some room imo, but as not as much as Brisbane but they are a much better side (which is why we should try and talk him into GC because if he refuses we know the Brisbane choice is purely a cash grab rather for personal reasons) so they would probably need to either trade a player to us as pat of the deal to relieve their cap, or we agree to pay a small part of his contract.

But even the last bit would be worth it as they have picks 8, 15 and an end of first round compo in next year's draft. Much more to work with than Brisbane.
Ironic that pick 15 is actually the compensation pick for Ablett that we traded back to them in 2012.

Pick 8 sounds juicy. (but won't happen). Apparently GC have said they won't give 15 for Bundy.
 

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Ironic that pick 15 is actually the compensation pick for Ablett that we traded back to them in 2012.

Pick 8 sounds juicy.
Just have to hope we can get it for Bundy and create a Josh Caddy out of it rather than a Smedts.

We will never win on this trade but if we could turn it into a player of Caddy's calibre at least we might almost break even.
 

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If that Beams trade does indeed transpire, it's a complete vindication of a negotiation strategy we could learn a lot from. Collingwood were merely being pragmatic and acting in the best interests of their football club; they flipped the tables on Beams and Brisbane and made it so they were dictating terms.
As much as I agree that Geelong has a lot to learn from Collingwood and their much harsher stance and approach during trade week, but the difference between the Beams deal and the Christensen one is that Collingwood are better equipped to create leverage and get things on their terms because Beams is contracted. Beams is the one who wants out, and Brisbane is the club that wants him, but he is legally bound to Collingwood. Therefore, Brisbane has to satisfy Collingwood in order to get the deal done, because the Pies have made it quite clear that they won't accept anything close to a deal they consider unders and they'll have no qualms with no trading him.

With Geelong and Christensen, the Cats hold little leverage because, if Christensen isn't contracted and wants to go leave, the club can either trade him for something or let him go into the PSD for nothing.

It is an example of why you should try to secure the contracts of your best players as early as possible, as a contracted player will allow the club to yield a far better result than if they're not.
 
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That gap could easily be bridged though by GC trading a non best 18 player to us in the deal to create cap room on their end, or us agreeing to pay part of the salary. It all depends whether you can convince him to go to GC.
I'd love for that to happen, but GC has a tendency to either delist players, or trade them hesitantly (i.e. Caddy).
 

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By the sounds of the Beams trade brissy don't want to give up a player say p 21 plus a player or 21 and a another late round pick 50-60 ish.
Rather a better pick.
cats said in the addy today first round pick no less or a same same swap in player status.
 

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GC have better picks in play and also better players to offer us so that would be whom I would want to deal with.

If we can get WC involved all the better.
WC have approached Geelong and Christensons management , they can offer Geelong more , but maybe Brisbane can offer Christenson more
 

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They wont give much in the way of players.
Golby,Hardwood,Crisp,Berwick those types.
Zac windscreens O'Brien is rookie listed got 30 touches v us down at the cattery last round prob can't trade rookies.
Maybe someone like a Jack Crisp. Good young player who is starting to get regular senior games now.
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I am open to trying to help allen but picks in the 20s and oldies like merrett are ridiculous.if thats the best offer we walk away and try to find another club to deal with.
If he needs a new environment, fine. Why just Queensland. Rule out Melbourne clubs for the moment, why doesn't the club try and shop him around to all 8 interstate clubs (7 now that Swans are banned). Apart from the sunshine why does it have to be QLD?. The tail surely can't wag the dog. It's been nearly 2 days and I'm still none the wiser as to his contract status. Seems to be conflicting reports from different outlets, so who do you believe.

Like most things in life it comes back to demand and supply, we need a bigger pool of clubs to drive a hard bargain. I don't want to lose Allen but that ship has long sailed, and I agree we need something better than a 20's pick.

So apart from Newton and Panos are there any midfielders we could realistically target?.
 
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