Watch a few players want to leave when we become really s**t. Adams could be on the move to try and win a flag somewhere else like geelong.
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Still trolling away TG! I guess you get some enjoyment out of it, and the mods are a tolerant lot, so you're still here! I shouldn't bother responding to your nonsense but at times it's hard to resist!
Taylor Adams is signed on until the end of 2024, he may well be our captain in a year or so, and I doubt that he'll be going anywhere. Over the last thirty or so years there's been a fair few patches where our team has been sh*t, yet I'm struggling to think of any players who have left us in that time to go to another club because they thought they may have been more likely to taste success there. By all means come up with a list of the names of the players (who you consider to be in that category) who have left us, but I suspect you'll struggle, and (if so) please explain why you believe (if we are to have another down patch) it will be any different this time around!!
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1 year plan has to be restructuring the forward line. I would be trying to pry away one big key forward from another team and looking to draft a specialist small crumbing forward. Melbourne found an absolute gem in Pickett, thats exactly the type we need. That, plus hopefully the emergence of 1-2 of Kelly, McCreery, McMahon should be enough to get Thomas, WHE and C.Brown out of the best 22 side.
Longer term plan should be around getting another 1-2 A grade midfielders in the team. Daicos hopefully will become one of those, but we'd probably also have to start looking at bringing someone in via trade or FA
Longer term plan should be around getting another 1-2 A grade midfielders in the team. Daicos hopefully will become one of those, but we'd probably also have to start looking at bringing someone in via trade or FA
I don’t think we’ll be able to afford Petracca, and why would he come to us? Dees look closer to a Premiership than we do.
I think Josh Kelly from GWS is much more likely. He’s a gun but has endured a little form dip over the last year or so, just like GWS has as a team, which will have reduced his monetary and trade price. Kelly’s a goal-kicking mid and is excellent on both sides of his body. I think he’s a much better player than Zac Merritt.
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I think Josh Kelly from GWS is much more likely. He’s a gun but has endured a little form dip over the last year or so, just like GWS has as a team, which will have reduced his monetary and trade price. Kelly’s a goal-kicking mid and is excellent on both sides of his body. I think he’s a much better player than Zac Merritt.
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Mates a journalist has to watch nearly every game, told.me last year Josh Kelly is overrated and so is his kicking.
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This is clearly not right, for if it was there is no way we would have traded our 2021 first for two 2nd round picks last draft.
Josh Kelly was very good when he was injury free and able to play outside whilst his team mates went in and got their hands dirty. He was regarded as one of the best two-way mids in the comp only a few years ago, and I'd back him in to get back there if circumstances allow it. That said, I doubt we'll get him.
Merrett seems the best option to me. Good mixture of inside and outside and can hit a target I50.
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He was the guy they should have grabbed with the two firsts used on Beams
So you say Adams is contracted like it means something. What was the contracted status of the players we traded for nothing?
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I hope we have a dip at Callum Coleman Jones.
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Moore to the forward line for the rest of the season to see how he goes. Kelly to defence. Trade in a mid. Draft blokes who are quick.
I see you didn't bother to/or couldn't come up with a list of names of players who have left Collingwood over the years because they thought they'd have a better chance of being successful elsewhere! It pretty much doesn't happen, does it?! Yet you were trying to suggest we'd have players wanting to leave if we became a really poor team, as if it happens all the time! Adams gives the impression that he loves it at the club, and it's very hard to see him wanting to go anywhere. The contract status of those players we traded recently surely has nothing to do with this discussion, since none of them were wanting to leave - we pushed them out due to salary cap/behaviour issues.
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A midfield is easier to fix than finding a key forward. If we have an opportunity to get a good key forward that would be my priority.
I think we could use some additional depth in midfield but I don't think it is as dire as you assess. While Pendles, Sidey and Adams are there it's going to be competitive. They have enough footy left in them to do some trades to bolster it.
We need someone to replace Pendles in the next couple of years. But I think we have enough salary opening up that it shouldn't be an issue.
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Moore is an okay key forward, but the best key defender in the league. Try to fix what isn't broken and you risk creating two problems instead of one.
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Previously, I hadn't been too worried about KPF and thought the good ones were ridiculously overpriced relative to their contributions, but with the changes to the game, they may become kings again - it's time to go back to 2016 and try Moore up front again.
We might already have a gun KPF in Moore and a solid KPD or two in Keane and Kelly. I think that's more likely to sort out our KPP spots than it is for us to suddenly have a good midfield. I'm less optimistic about our medium to short term midfield future. I already think Pendles and Sidey should be playing mainly wing/flanks. Adams isn't the type who is likely to still be good long after 30 - he's 28. I wouldn't be banking on any of our current mids being competitive around stoppage in 3 years time. But the club should have a better idea about our youngsters - they may be able to bank on a couple of them and we may get lucky with TBrown and Sier - but I'm not confident there either.
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I’m the opposite, previously being a key forward was much harder, so finding good ones that actually performed consistently was rarer and thus they were more valuable. Now it’s looks like as long as your not an absolute spud you’ll perform.
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One other thought I have had about trading our 2021 1st is keeping it would have given us the chance to review what KPFs are available in this draft.
Especially with this class being relatively unknown at the time we traded due to no footy in 2021 it’s plausible we could have HD a choice between Nick D and a top rated KPF.
Although we may take Nick by choice in that setting to cut off all choice seems premature. Of course the worse senario is Nick D isn’t rated as big as our round 1 pick and we could have got Nick plus another, possibly that KPF from the top 10 we need.
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That does make sense - but I think it'll change as I think KPDs will get forced to play their man much tighter. Thus the difference between the good ones and the average ones will be a lot of goals. For the last few years, you've been paying half a million bucks more for an extra half a goal a game.
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Our off season was a total calamity. But it's history now. Despite everything I think we can recover. Nick Daicos will be special. We will have a big warchest to hit free agency in the next two years also. How we use that will have a big impact on our fortunes.
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Intended teammate takes clear possession directly from your tap. They also do a sharked stat but it isn't published - opposition player takes clear possession directly from your tap. They really should be giving us the net one - HTA minus sharked.
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It’s all relative. Previous to now a 2-2.5 gpg key forward was elite. Now it’s looking like the elite guys are going to be getting 4-5 goals per game. A 50 goal season is going to be middle of the road from here on if the game remains in its current form.
Maybe just get Kelly to play two games in a row before sending him back to defence!
Hopefully some of the blokes we drafted are already quick and therefore that box is already ticked.
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