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And I think Tom Lynch changes that4th flattered us in 2019. We were miles short of the tigers.
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And I think Tom Lynch changes that4th flattered us in 2019. We were miles short of the tigers.
I can quote Pendles and Sidey and Adams stats from 2019 too if you’d like. They mean Jack all though, because it’s not 2019 anymore.
It’s a bit silly to look at old stats and assume they’re good players too.My point being is that they produced that as 20/21 year olds. They haven’t been given the opportunity since then to show class their potential.
A bit silly to compare them to 30 year old players.
Am I reading this correctly????What if we trade our next years first?
I’ve been thinking about a way we can best utilise our future picks while still acquiring Daicos & other players.
IMO, we will finish higher next year than we will this year.
Out: 2022 1st pick
In: GCS 2nd round pick & a combination of Will Brodie, Brayden Fironi, Sam
Flanders, Jeremy Sharp (2 or 3).
Basically anyone 24 or under who can’t get a game in that young developing team.
Example:
We lose pick 7
We get pick 28 & 3 best 22 players.
We’ll already have a very young list with all the draftees from the previous 2 years, Daicos & Dib this year.
Fiorini & Brodie slot into our midfield and make us better in the short / medium term with the hope they turn into B+ level player or are overtaken by draftees.
GCS obviously hoping we finish bottom 3.
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Just whipped this up as an example how relatively simple gathering some more points may be. That’s even before we consider trading in any future picks.
Essentially it is us trading our earliest pick (37) pick for 3 later picks with Brisbane.
There are also other options with Richmond and Gold Coast in particular.
Will that be continued into the 2021 draft? I thought it was only ever implemented for 2020 because of the reduction of list sizes.
Where not necessarily slow compared to some teams, but the tiges remain the benchmark - my view is that it's become a pressure game - and if you want to apply pressure and create turnovers like the tigers do - you've got to be able to run and close space down as quickly as the tigers do.
Another 700 points to go and we'd have draft like 9 players at the end of the draft, as you forgot about this;
Under normal AFL rules, clubs who are matching bids for northern Academy, Next Generation Academy and father-son players are only allowed to use draft points from the amount of picks that is equal to the number of their available list spots.
This has been to stop clubs from stockpiling late draft picks with the intention of only using them to pay for highly rated draftees, even if they had more picks at the draft than they had list spots available, which was an early loophole of the live bidding system.
Am I reading this correctly????
Fiorini and Brodie???
Oh dear.
We are re-building. We don’t want a short term, bandaid solution which may make us a little more competitive for a year or so.Both would walk into our team at the moment unfortunately.
Even some of the blokes we delisted last year would at the moment. I’d much rather Scharenberg in the back half at the moment than other options we’ve got...
Even if that’s the case, it’s not good reason to give up a significant asset for them. Half the reason we’re in the situation we’ve found ourselves in now is because we’ve been unwilling to walk away from deals where clubs are demanding trades that are unreasonable. Treloar, Beams, Murray, Aish. All trades where we gave up significantly more than we should have needed to, because the list management team held the philosophy that we owed it to the incoming player to get a deal done, and clubs took advantage of that. Hopefully the acquisition of Wright changes that, because frankly, he’s been involved in some of the best value trade deals of the past 20 years because he puts the clubs interests ahead of the incoming players.Both would walk into our team at the moment unfortunately.
Even if that’s the case, it’s not good reason to give up a significant asset for them. Half the reason we’re in the situation we’ve found ourselves in now is because we’ve been unwilling to walk away from deals where clubs are demanding trades that are unreasonable. Treloar, Beams, Murray, Aish. All trades where we gave up significantly more than we should have needed to, because the list management team held the philosophy that we owed it to the incoming player to get a deal done, and clubs took advantage of that. Hopefully the acquisition of Wright changes that, because frankly, he’s been involved in some of the best value trade deals of the past 20 years because he puts the clubs interests ahead of the incoming players.
At the very least we should make a play whether it be genuine or not and make them pay more than they would like. Other clubs offers have contributed to our current position so it's only fitting we do the same.On the back of the Petracca re-signing at Melbourne, I'd be watching and waiting them and Carlton. Someone has to fall out of the bed there, the Dee's have Weid this year, then Jackson, Pickett, Brayshaw in 2022 and Oliver the year after.
Carlton have McKay and Cripps OOC this year and Walsh next year, to go with bringing in Saad, McGovern and Z Williams in the last few years on solid money. Apparently they have also approached Adam Cerra from Freo at about $3m across 4/5 years
We are re-building. We don’t want a short term, bandaid solution which may make us a little more competitive for a year or so.
It’s the Carlton way when they took all those GWS players like Janksh, Kennedy etc. cost them high draft picks for what?? Set them back years doing that and many of them are either no longer there or can’t get a game just like they couldn’t in the club they came from.
When they finally realised they needed to stick to the draft and then recruit quality free agents, it’s made them look a lot better.
That’s what we need to do.
Agree on ShazBoth would walk into our team at the moment unfortunately.
Even some of the blokes we delisted last year would at the moment. I’d much rather Scharenberg in the back half at the moment than other options we’ve got...
Next years first needs to be untouchable. I will be a top 6 pick.
Of fringe players available I think we should be 100% be into Weid, and looking at players like cameron and brander for eagles, lipinski, fiorini, brodie etc which all fit potential needs.
obviously being fringe means not selling the farm but offering opportunities. All walk ups into our team atm.
Those players were both salary dumps, so unless the teams we deal with are in cap strife, don’t expect to get those kinds of deals.Yep if they're fringe, it's a 4th round pick like what we got for Tom Phillips or what Gold Coast got for Peter Wright.
Those players were both salary dumps, so unless the teams we deal with are in cap strife, don’t expect to get those kinds of deals.
Of all the clubs I think the Dogs might feel the squeeze the most, with Bont in FA. I view Richards as very gettable this year.Be interesting to watch if the reduced TPP starts to bite a bit harder across the league this year, and at which clubs.
Be interesting to watch if the reduced TPP starts to bite a bit harder across the league this year, and at which clubs.