List Mgmt. Trade and F/A - Part 3
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Context is everything. He didn’t seek to
discuss the cap, it was bought up for him. The thing he did confirm was there was still a hangover effect. Other non specifics he gave in the answers were
“We have issues but there not insurmountable”
“Hasn’t been discussed yet”
“There hasn’t been any conversation at this point about end of year list”
“No concrete decisions have been made from that perspective”
His answers then were littered with avoiding definite answers. I am not saying it will happen or anything but I am not sure how anyone could take Wrights answers as a strong statement it was off the table.
He essentially said it hasn’t been discussed but we have a hangover that’s not insurmountable. Gives him wriggle room for all outcomes.
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I don’t have any idea but wrights answers were deliberately non commital, which I would take to mean, at least when the interview was done, he wasn’t certain either way. He had a problem “hangover” but the solution was uncertain.
Have you heard if we are linked to any delisted free agents?
He’s not NQR, who is available for selection in the PSD with stats similar to his? We need another in and under body doing the grunt work. Have to protect the younger boys learning their craft playing in the middle.
Clearances are elite and before someone mentions disp. efficiency… FWIW Adams is worse.
Question for the BF Draft experts, Can you select a player that has been delisted from previous years for the PSD?
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I think it’s possible despite my rebuking of 12kilos post, but in the context of GW’s comments you’re looking at moving Sidebottom as opposed to Grundy or Maynard.
The biggest indicator to me we won’t have big outgoings is Lipinski and Kreuger as incomings. I don’t know what you’d have to be smoking to justify moving on Maynard (for instance) due to cap concerns only to then bring in two speculative types that would match the outgoing wage of Maynard?
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Hawks supporter on TR just suggested they trade picks 21/24 for our 2022 first...
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No Way I be Trading our 1st Rounder(Top 5 Pick) for 21 and 24 just to get Daicos Points
You dont think there should be some
So let me get this right , your saying if we implement my stratergy we will be at the bottom of the ladder right? In other words getting rid of Degoey Grundy Pendels and Sidebottom.
We finished 17th we are already in the bottom of the ladder with them!
If we implement my stratergy we may end up with another 2 high end elite kids not including Daicos jnr that will make it 3.
We play Lynch and Cameron in the ruck, we still have enough experience in the list which hopefully will quicken our rebuild
Exactly. Insurmountable means we have the capabilities to resolve the issues. Those capabilities could be anything from Trading Grundy to doing nothing and toughing it out.
It’s hard to gauge with two VFL seasons impacted by COVID. He played an excellent game against Melbourne and was unfairly dropped for Grundy in my view, Cox/Cameron should have come out based on form.
Hard to get a game when Grundy is in the side,tough ask for a project player ruck to also be competent enough forward of the ball too.
He is a prospect, speculative but a prospect based on his exposed form in VFL and AFL. The fact he was late to the game of AFL I would say hisceiling is high if his work ethic is right. I’d go in hard and ask for a late first rounder…he could be a spud but he could also be the next Witts. We traded a first rounder forthat dud from Brisbane and Jolly. Why not
I hope the hosts told them we wouldn't even do that for 5, 21 and 24.
But given what we did last year, they'd be silly not to at least offer it
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THE TOP 10 PLAYERS WHO WILL MAKE AN INSTANT IMPACT AT NEW CLUBS
3. Patrick Lipinski (Collingwood)
As a Dogs wingman, who played 73 per cent in that role this year, he’s just a handy player.
He was the sub for much of the year so, using another metric, his 19 possessions per 100 minutes is smack bang on the average for an AFL wingman.
But when looking at his potential, consider the four VFL games he played this year as an inside midfielder.
He averaged 156 ranking points, 35 touches, 13 contested possessions, seven clearances, 2.5 centre square clearances, 1.3 goals, 7.8 score involvements and 4.8 tackles.
There is no reason he can’t make an immediate splash with a top-five best-and-fairest finish next year, alongside Scott Pendlebury, Jordan De Goey, Taylor Adams and Steele Sidebottom as they give the young kids in Nick Daicos and Finlay Macrae some cover as they find their feet.
11. Nathan Kreuger (Collingwood)
Kreuger is a canny acquisition by the Pies, who will win his services despite the interest of St Kilda. The Cats swingman has played only a single AFL game in three years - two of them with few real VFL games.
But in his first VFL season, he showed he can be an aerial threat averaging eight marks, three intercept marks and seven intercept possessions.
He also pushed forward to kick six goals against Coburg in that season and wants to play forward, so will have a chance to join Brody Mihocek and Darcy Cameron as a marking target in a team crying out for more of them.
3. Patrick Lipinski (Collingwood)
As a Dogs wingman, who played 73 per cent in that role this year, he’s just a handy player.
He was the sub for much of the year so, using another metric, his 19 possessions per 100 minutes is smack bang on the average for an AFL wingman.
But when looking at his potential, consider the four VFL games he played this year as an inside midfielder.
He averaged 156 ranking points, 35 touches, 13 contested possessions, seven clearances, 2.5 centre square clearances, 1.3 goals, 7.8 score involvements and 4.8 tackles.
There is no reason he can’t make an immediate splash with a top-five best-and-fairest finish next year, alongside Scott Pendlebury, Jordan De Goey, Taylor Adams and Steele Sidebottom as they give the young kids in Nick Daicos and Finlay Macrae some cover as they find their feet.
11. Nathan Kreuger (Collingwood)
Kreuger is a canny acquisition by the Pies, who will win his services despite the interest of St Kilda. The Cats swingman has played only a single AFL game in three years - two of them with few real VFL games.
But in his first VFL season, he showed he can be an aerial threat averaging eight marks, three intercept marks and seven intercept possessions.
He also pushed forward to kick six goals against Coburg in that season and wants to play forward, so will have a chance to join Brody Mihocek and Darcy Cameron as a marking target in a team crying out for more of them.
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If that was the talk somehow we did the complete opposite of that.
Our 2022 1st is a golden ticket. Getting Ben King/Logan McDonald would be the only way we should trade it. Otherwise we’re using it next year.
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Don't you wish you were close enough to slap him
To be honest, I'd be keeping Lynch unless there is a stupid offer on the table. Cox can go but we don't need to lose both IMO. If Grundy goes down, I can't see Cameron taking over the mantle, and if he does there goes our forward structure.
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Went for bulk, got injuries and then get scared off, was the talk.
What if someone (say Footscray) come knocking with an offer for Cameron. Yes he's in contract but if I was looking to top up my Ruck stocks he's teh one I'd be asking about.
Not according to the stats, I did a game by game analysis for the Brownlow and he was stiff not to get more 3 point games and votes. He was injured as well. Granted he was severely down on 2019 form but he was still up there in terms of performance for his position. Given how poorly we performed across the board, and how shockingly difficult it must have been to remain focussed with the entire club in disarray he didn’t perform that badly. Either way I reckon a club would be positive they could turn that form slump around with a fresh start. I am positive with Macrae on board he’ll get back to his best again.
For arguments sake if he can get back to his best, why couldn’t we trade him for multiple first round picks?!
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Likely they just think Ned Guy is still around
Well then, that's something new. I'd be open to that as long as we had a plan and recruit in mind that improves our forward structure.
THE TOP 10 PLAYERS WHO WILL MAKE AN INSTANT IMPACT AT NEW CLUBS
3. Patrick Lipinski (Collingwood)
As a Dogs wingman, who played 73 per cent in that role this year, he’s just a handy player.
He was the sub for much of the year so, using another metric, his 19 possessions per 100 minutes is smack bang on the average for an AFL wingman.
But when looking at his potential, consider the four VFL games he played this year as an inside midfielder.
He averaged 156 ranking points, 35 touches, 13 contested possessions, seven clearances, 2.5 centre square clearances, 1.3 goals, 7.8 score involvements and 4.8 tackles.
There is no reason he can’t make an immediate splash with a top-five best-and-fairest finish next year, alongside Scott Pendlebury, Jordan De Goey, Taylor Adams and Steele Sidebottom as they give the young kids in Nick Daicos and Finlay Macrae some cover as they find their feet.
11. Nathan Kreuger (Collingwood)
Kreuger is a canny acquisition by the Pies, who will win his services despite the interest of St Kilda. The Cats swingman has played only a single AFL game in three years - two of them with few real VFL games.
But in his first VFL season, he showed he can be an aerial threat averaging eight marks, three intercept marks and seven intercept possessions.
He also pushed forward to kick six goals against Coburg in that season and wants to play forward, so will have a chance to join Brody Mihocek and Darcy Cameron as a marking target in a team crying out for more of them.
The state of the herald sun where a shitty reporter like Jon Ralph is doing football analysis.
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Did he just predict a top 5 B&F finish for Lipinski? Ahead of Crisp, De Goey, Moore, Grundy, Adams, Pendlebury, Elliott, Daicos (perhaps x2) and Maynard??
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