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If that's whats on the table at 1pm tomorrow it will be enough and we should take it. The time between now and then will be about getting something else thrown in if we can.
Yep we should show that yet again push us and we fall.

For once in our history could we actually show some Steele and not be walked over by the establishment
 

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If that's whats on the table at 1pm tomorrow it will be enough and we should take it. The time between now and then will be about getting something else thrown in if we can.
Well then they win this one. 4 might get us Wright, it will get us a good player. 4 and 6 and then the picks in the 20's is a good hand. We still don't know what we get for Cooney or Jones.

But Griffen is a steal for that. I think it will make us more determined than ever to come even harder at them next year.
 

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I would accept GWS offer if it involved 4 and player and not our 6 back. Would be a disaster we we didn't land Boyd, keep Griffen and miss out on any chance to draft Wright. Grab a good deal for Griff and then try our luck again next year for Boyd. Have to do our best to land Wright if we can't get Boyd this year.
 

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Hopefully Boyd doesn't want to go anywhere but the Dogs, as he has to agree to the move for the trade to go through. That said Saints should be able to offer him just about the same deal which isn't great news.
He hates living in Western Sydney, how do you reckon he will go in Seaford? It is a long way from town.
 

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The silence is a good thing, i'd rather that than a petty GWS press release or the Dogs saying we are happy to keep Griff etc. Means they are talking, just get this deal done so both clubs can move on.
I'm still confident a deal will be done.
 

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Got a feeling we will get an unwanted tall from another club before close of play tomorrow. Walker, Schoenmakers or the like. No inside knowledge just a feeling.
 

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If Griffs happy to sit out for a year, id be comfy making him sit out. No question for me.
If we can't get fair value for him we must leave him on our list. It would be on him if he choses to sit the 2015 season out.

Unlike GWS, who are refusing to trade a player who wants to leave them, we are trying to find a way for Griffen to get to GWS without us being shafted.
 

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Ah man, really torn here. Don't want to listen to muppet Barrett but I need to know when and if this trade goes down.

Decided I'll kill the feed and keep refreshing this thread. ******* Barrett.
I'm just following twitter. It really sucks the life out of you listening to Barrett :p
 

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Ah man, really torn here. Don't want to listen to muppet Barrett but I need to know when and if this trade goes down.

Decided I'll kill the feed and keep refreshing this thread. ******* Barrett.
i agree with you - he is an out and out muppet ! Jealous Jealous man. Doesnt want us to get anything
 

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If Griffs happy to sit out for a year, id be comfy making him sit out. No question for me.
Honestly, a lot of things have changed with free agency and players ability to trade etc. but for the captain of your club who has been with you for 10 years to say he wants to leave and only go to one club when he still has a year to go on the contract he signed, THEN say if you don't orchestrate a trade he will sit out for a year and not fulfil his contract, I'm just blown away.

The AFL would have to intervene if that were the case, otherwise what does a player contract mean anymore? I'd like to see a scenario where if a player decides to not fulfil his contract if the club has met all requirements receive a ban equivalent to the amount of years not fulfilled. So Griffen could sit out next year if he wants but the he has to sit out another year after that as punishment for breaking his contract.
 

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I would accept GWS offer if it involved 4 and player and not our 6 back. Would be a disaster we we didn't land Boyd, keep Griffen and miss out on any chance to draft Wright. Grab a good deal for Griff and then try our luck again next year for Boyd. Have to do our best to land Wright if we can't get Boyd this year.
I don't get this reasoning that not taking obvious unders for Griffen would be a disaster.

Show weakness and you are open to all predators including within your own club.

He is a contracted club captain, our best player and in the best 20 in the competition.

If he is not traded for unders, we may risk wright having 6, we may not, but we will not have backed down to GWS, so next year trying to get Boyd we can say deal or PSD you lose him anyway and Griff can work out if he wants an AFL career.

Too many are looking at this from a GHWS point of view. Do you think clubs around the top 4 would not be putting in offers for Griff to at the end of next season? At this stage there are still compensation picks, we may get close to 4 again next season or better depending on where we finish.

But to say not get any deal is a disaster is not true, caving in is a disaster
 

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Honestly, a lot of things have changed with free agency and players ability to trade etc. but for the captain of your club who has been with you for 10 years to say he wants to leave and only go to one club when he still has a year to go on the contract he signed, THEN say if you don't orchestrate a trade he will sit out for a year and not fulfil his contract, I'm just blown away.

The AFL would have to intervene if that were the case, otherwise what does a player contract mean anymore? I'd like to see a scenario where if a player decides to not fulfil his contract if the club has met all requirements receive a ban equivalent to the amount of years not fulfilled. So Griffen could sit out next year if he wants but the he has to sit out another year after that as punishment for breaking his contract.
Whilst I appreciate your sentiments, why would we want Griffen to sit out for two years, therefore having zero value to us or anyone else?
 

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Honestly, a lot of things have changed with free agency and players ability to trade etc. but for the captain of your club who has been with you for 10 years to say he wants to leave and only go to one club when he still has a year to go on the contract he signed, THEN say if you don't orchestrate a trade he will sit out for a year and not fulfil his contract, I'm just blown away.

The AFL would have to intervene if that were the case, otherwise what does a player contract mean anymore? I'd like to see a scenario where if a player decides to not fulfil his contract if the club has met all requirements receive a ban equivalent to the amount of years not fulfilled. So Griffen could sit out next year if he wants but the he has to sit out another year after that as punishment for breaking his contract.
Especially since the problem that caused it in his eyes is now gone
 
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