Strategy Trade and List Management thread 2.(...the waiting for the hammer to fall edition)

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I'd place Brownlow votes marginally ahead of CD ranking points then super coach points. But interesting for looking at midfielders potential to be in the best three on the ground.

Interesting Koby's Brownlow votes has him 5th for our club out of the 14* players who polled. People might be underselling Koby's value IMO.

*not sure if Jong polled any votes...

Everyone has said that Koby has a pretty high ceiling, the thing is that he's way too inconsistent and his bad games are absolutely dreadful and hurt us more than a bad Jong game does.
 

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Polled 6 Brownlow votes and was 2nd best in the VFL GF so teams know Koby is talented enough.

If rumours are true and there are multiple teams after him, perhaps that gets him up to a late 2nd rounder.
Koby was awful imo in the VFL GF

Turnover merchant, just blazes away time and time again
 

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Everyone has said that Koby has a pretty high ceiling, the thing is that he's way too inconsistent and his bad games are absolutely dreadful and hurt us more than a bad Jong game does.
I agree Koby is inconsistent. However nothing Koby has served up has matched Jong's St Kilda game for shite IMO.

If we could get better than P30 for either or both I'd be pumped.

Both are clearly fringe imo with next year Wallis, Murphy and Adams and possibly Williams and Redpath/Cloke ahead of them.
 

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And one premiership in your history is a fact. Swans will pump you in the GF.
It's actually not. We've won ten (hopefully 11) senior flags. If you can count your premierships from the 1900s so can we.
Now **** off with your petty bullshit.
 
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It is frightening to think of how well placed we are moving forward ... cold shower needed!

Established (core) players ages (as of now):
Dunkley 19
Bont 20
Daniel 20
McLean 20
T.Boyd 21
Hunter 21
Macrae 22
Stringer 22
C.Smith 23
Wallis 23
JJ 23
Hamling 23
Libba 24
Dahl 24
Rough 25
Biggs 25

Players likely to become established on list:
Williams 18
Cordy 19
Webb 20
Adams 23

Players I still hold out hope of making it
Collins 18
Lynch 19
R.Smith 20
Dale 20
Hamilton 20
Hrovat 22
Jong 23
Roberts 23
Campbell 24
 
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All we need now is a specialist kicking coach.

So disappointing watching tory dickson and Chris maple spending 15 minutes with dunkley working on his goal kicking.

Hawks have a specialist kicking coach/bio mechanist, and no wonder their goal kicking is the best.
 

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All we need now is a specialist kicking coach.

So disappointing watching tory dickson and Chris maple spending 15 minutes with dunkley working on his goal kicking.

Hawks have a specialist kicking coach/bio mechanist, and no wonder their goal kicking is the best.
They did go out to recruit good kicks though, while we dont particularly.
 

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It is frightening to think of how well placed we are moving forward ... cold shower needed!

Established (core) players ages (as of now):
Dunkley 19
Bont 20
Daniel 20
McLean 20
T.Boyd 21
Hunter 21
Macrae 22
Stringer 22
C.Smith 23
Wallis 23
JJ 23
Hamling 23
Libba 24
Dahl 24
Rough 25
Biggs 25

Players likely to become established on list:
Williams 18
Cordy 19
Webb 20
Adams 23

Players I still hold out hope of making it
Collins 18
Lynch 19
R.Smith 20
Dale 20
Hamilton 20
Hrovat 22
Jong 23
Roberts 23
Campbell 24
Agree we are well placed. But since you asked for a cold shower....IMO much of our success this year is based on incredible intensity and running. Should that drop off we could fall back to the pack as our list is possible underweight in good talls and skilled kicks. Especially compared to teams like GWS, GC, crows, Sydney,and WC.
 
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I get that, but imo our players shouldn't be the ones doing the skills teaching on the fly at training, particularly something as important and technical as kicking. Get a specialist.

Imagine how much more dangerous we would be if we raised our conversion % but 10%.
 
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