Strategy Trade and List Management thread 3 (...The pining for the departed. Edition)

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They're probably better off convincing Marsh to stay or throwing a spanner in the works by offering someone like Frost a four year contract better than Brisbane's then they are talking to Lynden Dunn
Honestly the maggies could have just frontloaded Moore, Frost, and kept cloke for his last year and been far better off than where they are now.

What the hell are they doing?
 

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The notion of us fighting for pick 35 instead of 43, as opposed to something much better than pick 35 makes me bloody sick. Hamling is worth a pick between 15 and 30 right now. Proven key defender that is young and in lightning form
What makes your profession and knowledge more applicable and respectable than that of AFL list managers and recruiters? I'm sure they will know more than you what his true value is rated at.
 

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Just what we need a pensioner !
A pensioner that's two years younger than Murphy and Matty Boyd and despite slowing down is still a great zone-off defender and would be terrific in our system against those brutish big forwards that give us tons of trouble...yes, that pensioner.
 

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A pensioner that's two years younger than Murphy and Matty Boyd and despite slowing down is still a great zone-off defender and would be terrific in our system against those brutish big forwards that give us tons of trouble...yes, that pensioner.
Thank god you aren't recruiting.
He may have 2 years on our older guys but I bet his body is in worse shape with the kidney issue and playing cp his career.
We might have to retire 3 backs already next year, you want to add another.
 

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What makes your profession and knowledge more applicable and respectable than that of AFL list managers and recruiters? I'm sure they will know more than you what his true value is rated at.
The same people who let Biggs go for nothing or gave up first rounders as part of deals for Tom Lee or Ryan Griffen etc etc

List managers get as much wrong as they do right - and this is the exact place to discuss said issues.
 

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What makes your profession and knowledge more applicable and respectable than that of AFL list managers and recruiters? I'm sure they will know more than you what his true value is rated at.
I'd be surprised if Jmac didn't agree pick 35 ain't great compo for a player like Hammers. If so though this forum is my platform for whinging about it ;-)
 

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The same people who let Biggs go for nothing or gave up first rounders as part of deals for Tom Lee or Ryan Griffen etc etc

List managers get as much wrong as they do right - and this is the exact place to discuss said issues.
Or the same guys that wanted to recruit Lobbe - which would have cost us Dunkley and Collins...

Or Richmond's list managers. A blindfolded monkey with a dartboard would do a better job.
 

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Thank god you aren't recruiting.
He may have 2 years on our older guys but I bet his body is in worse shape with the kidney issue and playing cp his career.
We might have to retire 3 backs already next year, you want to add another.
Yeah, except for the fact that he played 22 games this year, and was better than Roberts and Hamling in pretty much every statistical category by a wide margin, and very very rarely makes a mistake with the football, going at 89% efficiency.

Not to mention he would probably be dirt cheap to get if he was available.

Its fairly easy to be a smartass tosser and diss out someone else's discussion point when you're not raising your own. Glad you're not recruiting either.
 

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Yeah, except for the fact that he played 22 games this year, and was better than Roberts and Hamling in pretty much every statistical category by a wide margin, and very very rarely makes a mistake with the football, going at 89% efficiency.

Not to mention he would probably be dirt cheap to get if he was available.

Its fairly easy to be a smartass tosser and diss out someone else's discussion point when you're not raising your own. Glad you're not recruiting either.
Fact that it's all in the past. We worked wonder with young left field recruits not 30+ yo. We have enough of our own.

Is it 2016 with Bevo coaching or 2014 with McDud? Is it was a stupid idea then and still stupid now.

I'm never said I was recruiting but suggestions without using your brain need to be pointed out.
 
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Trade for needs and keep hitting the draft. We are a young team building to a dynasty not an aging spent force trying to hold on for one last shot. However trading for needs is not as easy it seems on BF as we might not be happy at what we lose in the process. Say Hurley did agree to move to the Bulldogs. Our first round pick was 18 and we can't trade next years 1st round pick. What player(s) would be needed to have added to get Hurley and don't day the usual suspects Hrovat, Jong, Stevens. Essendon would have wanted much more quality and rightly so. I don't want to recruit the likes of Bandy, Bartlett, Sherman, Koops .........., ever again!
Every list manager and head recruiter are going to have their mistakes, and don't we love pointing them out. But gee JMac and Dal have done a lot right.
 

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Fact that it's all in the past. We worked wonder with young left field recruits not 30+ yo. We have enough of our own.

Is it 2016 with Bevo coaching or 2014 with McDud? Is it was a stupid idea then and still stupid now.

I'm never said I was recruiting but suggestions with using you brain need to be pointed out.
So you're responding with zero suggestions and a whole bunch of general tripe about our past coach, which has no relevance, whilst I'm suggesting a player and actually using statistics from the past year to back it up, yet I need to use my brain?

 

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Apparently Jordan Lewis chose to go to Melbourne because they "stood out" after he assessed every other club in the competition.

The only club offering you a three year deal tends to stand out when you know you're legs are already on the way out.
He is right though. Of all the midfields, Melbourne's is the one most likely IMO to approach our hardness and contested ability over the next couple of years. We should rightly be wary of them. He (Lewis) would also likely morph into a clearance/midfield coaching role (on-field initially) much like JC has for us. Good move for Melbourne and Lewis($$$$ plus post playing options).
 
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