Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 2 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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Dogs_R_Us

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Unless a player wants out or they’re a toxic influence I can’t see us, in the Bevo era, trading out a player to get another deal over the line.
Wallis doesn’t come under those two criteria atm. He’ll be here for a while yet.
Spot on. Bevo has said he wants to keep this group together so don’t expect an exodus, especially of beloved team mates such as Wallis or Jong or McLean, etc. that’s silly talk. Nothing more demoralising for the team than to have their mates sold off while the coach is supposedly building a tight-knit group capable of winning another flag. That’s how they won in 2016, a team of average players but the chemistry and trust amongst them were what made the difference.
 

Virgin Dog

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Sweet staying on the rookie list and porter staying on the main
Just for future knowledge, in order to move someone from the senior list to the rookie list, they technically have to be delisted, which can't happen until end of season. So in Porter's case, he has to be on the senior list if he's getting extended before end of season. Since Sweet is already a rookie, it's a safe assumption that he remain there until the club make a big deal out of promoting him (which doesn't technically happen until draft period)
 

Mojorisin

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Just for future knowledge, in order to move someone from the senior list to the rookie list, they technically have to be delisted, which can't happen until end of season. So in Porter's case, he has to be on the senior list if he's getting extended before end of season. Since Sweet is already a rookie, it's a safe assumption that he remain there until the club make a big deal out of promoting him (which doesn't technically happen until draft period)
I think a few here were under the assumption that he was a rookie
 

maddog37

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Spot on. Bevo has said he wants to keep this group together so don’t expect an exodus, especially of beloved team mates such as Wallis or Jong or McLean, etc. that’s silly talk. Nothing more demoralising for the team than to have their mates sold off while the coach is supposedly building a tight-knit group capable of winning another flag. That’s how they won in 2016, a team of average players but the chemistry and trust amongst them were what made the difference.
I hope they get rid of dead wood a bit quicker than they have in the past personally. Professional sport is tough.
 

0utsider

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All for the Sweet extension but Porter has me stumped. I understand he's been great in the VFL recently but how does he ever get into this side as a vanilla inside mid? He's behind Bont, Macrae, Dunkley, Libba, Mclean, Lipinski, Smith, Wallis and West. Literally 10th in line and we only have 40 spots available.

Can only think that we see something in him as a forward or winger but if so he should probably be playing that role in the 2s.
 

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Philthy1

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All for the Sweet extension but Porter has me stumped. I understand he's been great in the VFL recently but how does he ever get into this side as a vanilla inside mid? He's behind Bont, Macrae, Dunkley, Libba, Mclean, Lipinski, Smith, Wallis and West. Literally 10th in line and we only have 40 spots available.

Can only think that we see something in him as a forward or winger but if so he should probably be playing that role in the 2s.
Some blokes develop at different rates. Cavarra just got drafted at 24. Porter may just need some time, altho i haven’t seen him play a VFL game this year.
 

Virgin Dog

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Yep and that is exactly what everyone said at the end of 2016 mate.

Chop the dead wood that’s been on the list forever or isn’t any chance to play senior footy unless we have mass injuries.
A lot of the "dead wood" types remain uncontracted, with I think 7 senior list guys and 2 rookies still without contracts. Porter is really the only surprise extension so far, but I honestly think he's shown enough to be given 1 more year
 

CDBulldog

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Can Wallis play 70-30 fwd-mid when he returns? He did well last year in the forward half but is he able to adapt to other teams paying him more attention?

I am struggling to see a long term place for him in our side. Especially in our midfield. Clearly beveridge does as he re-signed last year.
A couple of weeks ago I started a thread around Wallis and what to do with him and a few called the thread unnecessary. I don’t agree. I think he’s a great guy to have around the club (heart and soul type) but that may not be enough when you don’t see a role for him anymore. Would have to be a stack of injuries for him to be near best 22 available now in my mind..
 

Dry Rot

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If you are bored and jaded and want to see something new, watch this


You'll see a huge campaigner looking Dogs ruckman winning taps and hit outs.
 

BRWB

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It's no coincidence that our form has spiked since Bev started playing a settled fwd line with fwds rather than mids. And playing mids like Dunkley as mids. Hunter was interviewed on the weekend and said this.

Who'd have thunk it.

Doesn't bode well for guys like Wallis. Bar injuries his opportunities may be limited.

Cordy will need to improve his one on one work. Is even being outmarked by little guys.

Reckon we have learnt and will go hard for some specialist fwds. The oft injured unproven Cavarra aside we don't have a pacy pressure fwd with skill. It's why Tippa would be such a good fit. Even if he doesn't kick goals against good teams. (Although he may do just that playing for a decent team).
 

Spectre

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If you are bored and jaded and want to see something new, watch this


You'll see a huge campaigner looking Dogs ruckman winning taps and hit outs.
My boy! Just wait until he gets a tank on him, competition won't know what hit 'em!
 
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