Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 2 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[dergert]

Nothing against him personally, but trading gowers for even a future pick would be a win.

 

[TiAn_]

How good is it being at this stage of trade week and knowing the absolute worst case scenario is adding a very good FF & CHB combo to our young finals side for one first round pick?

None of this drama of taking huge risky swings just to make a charge at 9th like the Saints. No desperately chasing and missing out on multiple players like North. No off-field drama about players bailing like Essendon. No administrators making a spectacle of themselves.

Just targeting a few players that we know we have the trade capital to get, getting them to nominate us and trying to hammer out the most favourable deal we can.

 

[fronkalicious]

Where else could hill land in melbourne if freo refuse to deal him to the saints?

 

[compact72]

Where else could hill land in melbourne if freo refuse to deal him to the saints?

Freo ****ed that up big time. Saints were offering overs too

Maybe dogs with pick 13 and 2020 second-rounder? Probably best Freo will get now

 

[Pugz89]

Where else could hill land in melbourne if freo refuse to deal him to the saints?

North probably the other main club who could stump up similar cash. Wonder if he goes back to Hawks as a plan B?

 

[Scott Tracy]

Trade Radio must be pissed since nothings actually happening

 

[TiAn_]

If we want one more KPD for short-term depth, we could do a lot worse than a rookie spot for Nathan Brown, if he gets chopped by the Saints.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Dougal Howard to the Saints on a 5 year/600k deal.

yeah...nah.

 

[fronkalicious]

Freo f’ed that up big time. Saints were offering overs too

Maybe dogs with pick 13 and 2020 second-rounder? Probably best Freo will get now

Sorry, how did freo **** that up? The guys contracted with them for 2 more years. They’re not obligated to do anything. In exactly the same way geelong did last year with kelly, who only had 1 year left on his deal.

Hill can sit out for 2 years if he’s that desperate to live in Melbourne and freo don’t find a trade they like.

Hills entirely within his rights to want to live in Melbourne and request a trade. And as a contracted player, freo are entirely within their rights to make him sit out if they’re not getting what they deem to be fair.

Everyone needs to remember that the trade value of a contracted player is completely different to that of an uncontracted player.

 

[compact72]

Sorry, how did freo fu** that up? The guys contracted with them for 2 more years. They’re not obligated to do anything. In exactly the same way geelong did last year with kelly, who only had 1 year left on his deal.

Hill can sit out for 2 years if he’s that desperate to live in Melbourne and freo don’t find a trade they like.

Hills entirely within his rights to want to live in Melbourne and request a trade. And as a contracted player, freo are entirely within their rights to make him sit out if they’re not getting what they deem to be fair.

Everyone needs to remember that the trade value of a contracted player is completely different to that of an uncontracted player.

Freo should be scouting talent in WA and getting all they can while West Coast don't have much imo


Of course Freo have rights.

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[Mojorisin]

Freo f’ed that up big time. Saints were offering overs too

Maybe dogs with pick 13 and 2020 second-rounder? Probably best Freo will get now

Will be at saints or Freo next year.

 

[bobs head soup]

Where else could hill land in melbourne if freo refuse to deal him to the saints?

Saints still most likely.

Freo want 6 + 2020 first. Saints say no
Saints want 6 + 2020 2nd. Freo say no.

Not a massive gap.

Compromise now needs to be 12 + 2020 1st

No-one loses face. Everyone moves forward.

Alternative is a mess.

 

[Dogsman16]

Sorry, how did freo fu** that up? The guys contracted with them for 2 more years. They’re not obligated to do anything. In exactly the same way geelong did last year with kelly, who only had 1 year left on his deal.

Hill can sit out for 2 years if he’s that desperate to live in Melbourne and freo don’t find a trade they like.

Hills entirely within his rights to want to live in Melbourne and request a trade. And as a contracted player, freo are entirely within their rights to make him sit out if they’re not getting what they deem to be fair.

Everyone needs to remember that the trade value of a contracted player is completely different to that of an uncontracted player.

Everything you said I agree with. But pick 6 + a future second (especially from a club that shouldnt make the top 8) is a big haul.

Freo would want to hope they can eek out something better though.

The saints might have also cast their net too wide. I feel the Howard trade will be tricky. They have gone for broke by chasing 2 players who are contracted for multiple years to go.

The Ben King trade going to be super difficult as well.

 

[fronkalicious]

Saints still most likely.

Freo want 6 + 2020 first. Saints say no
Saints want 6 + 2020 2nd. Freo say no.

Not a massive gap.

Compromise now needs to be 12 + 2020 1st

No-one loses face. Everyone moves forward.

Alternative is a mess.

2 problems with that package:

1. Freo want a top 10 pick to ensure there’s no bid on Henry beforehand

2. St Kilda want to keep their 2020 first for ben king.

It’s messy, and I’m entirely on Freo’s side in the whole thing.

 

[Dry Rot]

Where else could hill land in melbourne if freo refuse to deal him to the saints?

North and Demons may the picks and cap space to do it. And FWIW, I reckon Saints ****ed this up.

While you are here Fronk, do you think Martin will get to Carlton?

 

[fronkalicious]

I like the zac fisher pursuit too (even though it’s not happening). Targeting contracted players with real speed and goal-kicking. Great strategy again.

 

[fronkalicious]

North and Demons may the picks and cap space to do it. And FWIW, I reckon Saints ****ed this up.

While you are here Fronk, do you think Martin will get to Carlton?

Hey DR

I guess so. Has there been speculation that he may not??

You keen for us to pounce if Carlton can’t make it happen?

 

[bobs head soup]

2 problems with that package:

1. Freo want a top 10 pick to ensure there’s no bid on Henry beforehand

2. St Kilda want to keep their 2020 first for ben king.

It’s messy, and I’m entirely on Freo’s side in the whole thing.

Everything is a punt but most have Henry at 12-20 so they should be ok and even if Saints can get BKing, they've got 12 months to organise appropriate trades. Still reckon that's both teams best path forwards.

 

[Dogsman16]

Really would like some proactiveness in getting those 3 third rounders into a pick in the 20's. Hopefully we are doing this tomorrow/early so we then have some great assets to go on a full blown assault.

 

[Northernsoul74]

I might be in the minority here, but I really like the way trade week plays out. Today was fascinating with the Saints/Freo offers/refusals,Fantasia backflipping,GWS/Saints pick swaps and all the various implications.

Sure, actual trades have been slow, but there has been plenty of action with all the various manoeuverings. No-one really knows how things will play out.

So many things could happen over the next few days and will build to a hell of a crescendo next Wednesday.

I think a week is enough. Build to the weekend, cut off is Friday 5 pm.

 

[Southern 8]

North and Demons may the picks and cap space to do it. And FWIW, I reckon Saints ****ed this up.

While you are here Fronk, do you think Martin will get to Carlton?

I would of thought Melbourne’s salary cap is tight. Losing Hogan but have added Lever, May, Tomlinson and Langdon likely to the books. Not sure how they could afford Bruce (Saints rumour) or Hill on more money than what they’d pay Bruce.Who knows though.

 

[bobs head soup]

Really would like some proactiveness in getting those 3 third rounders into a pick in the 20's. Hopefully we are doing this tomorrow/early so we then have some great assets to go on a full blown assault.

We'd be working on it, but no-one is trading down until other issues are sorted. We would be proactive, everyone is, just not visible to all of us

 

[footyfan000001]

Keep an eye on Sam Reid still peeps..

 

[Dogsman16]

Keep an eye on Sam Reid still peeps..

Very interested to see what he does. Buddy, Daniher, Blakey, McCartin, Reid dont all fit.

 

[Hoges64]

He had his best game of the year against the Dogs. If he played like that every week then I’d take him. Unfortunately I don’t think he regularly hits that standard.

Even Sam Petrevski-Seton looked like a world beater in that game.

Massive outlier.