Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 3 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Mofra]

We have multiple strong FS and Academy players to (likely) pick up though - not just Marra. Think we need at least another second to add to that list ideally. A trade out reasonably likely to achieve that imo

Raak perhaps, McPherson seems set to slide. Like many clubs, we may just trade down our first rounder for a points surplus too to help us with bids.

 

[Euku]

Raak perhaps, McPherson seems set to slide. Like many clubs, we may just trade down our first rounder for a points surplus too to help us with bids.

Reading that plugger quote makes me piss myself inside every time, agree also with points for next year nothing to worry about

 

[josh the gent]

Raak perhaps, McPherson seems set to slide. Like many clubs, we may just trade down our first rounder for a points surplus too to help us with bids.

Are either Raak or McPherson likely to be inside first round?

If they’re not, then i’d be in favour of taking a points deficit...

Why isn’t Nick Stevens available for us anymore?

 

[Mofra]

Are either Raak or McPherson likely to be inside first round?

If they’re not, then i’d be in favour of taking a points deficit...

Why isn’t Nick Stevens available for us anymore?

Doubtful on both, although there's a lot to play out yet.

Wasn't Stevens ruled out when he changed teams as a 15 year old?

 

[Mr. Walker]

We have multiple strong FS and Academy players to (likely) pick up though - not just Marra. Think we need at least another second to add to that list ideally. A trade out reasonably likely to achieve that imo

Yeah. Hanging on to Gardner could prove to be a masterstroke.

 

[Tom Daniels]

Correct! But I think we still have to draft 3 people regardless on how many picks we have

Yeah, those picks will slide to the back of the draft

 

[Tom Daniels]

Could do a bit of swap with the Crows for their second or third rounder and the first rounder they have tied to GWS in a swap for our first or something like that depending on where the picks fall

 

[Mr. Walker]

Overall very happy with our trade period and trusting the Power team to get the drafting right.

One area that always bothers me is the Dogs always seem to miss the boat with trading with “ the dopey club” A few years back it was Freo that always seemed to overpay in trades or make overly generous trades for reasons only fathomable to themselves. Now it’s GWS. But we never seem involved in the deals. Are we too nice?

 

[weltschmerz]

Could do a bit of swap with the Crows for their second or third rounder and the first rounder they have tied to GWS in a swap for our first or something like that depending on where the picks fall

We already have their third rounder, don't we?

 

[Testekill]

Doubtful on both, although there's a lot to play out yet.

Wasn't Stevens ruled out when he changed teams as a 15 year old?

Isn't his dad a Kiwi?

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Raak perhaps, McPherson seems set to slide. Like many clubs, we may just trade down our first rounder for a points surplus too to help us with bids.

Yeah I'd be keen on that as we (understandably) seem committed to Marra. Just take whoever offers the most points.

Did I hear it mentioned we have more strong FS/Academy coming though in 2021 too or did I imagine that?

 

[weltschmerz]

Yeah I'd be keen on that as we (understandably) seem committed to Marra. Just take whoever offers the most points.

Did I hear it mentioned we have more strong FS/Academy coming though in 2021 too or did I imagine that?

I'm pretty sure the West twins are 2021.

 

[Pugz89]

Isn't his dad a Kiwi?

Yes he is, but NGA is only for Asian, African or indigenous prospects.

 

[Testekill]

Yes he is, but NGA is only for Asian, African or indigenous prospects.

Oh no that's what I meant. He's not eligible because the extent of it is his dad is a Kiwi and thus not an eligible ethnic background.

 

[Tom Daniels]

We already have their third rounder, don't we?

Sorry, must be one they've gained from someone else! You get the drift though, something along those lines to ensure its not just Marra and the last 2 picks of the draft. I honestly think the other FS and NGA boys will be similar to Buku and just sort of slide through

 

[Mojorisin]

Sorry, must be one they've gained from someone else! You get the drift though, something along those lines to ensure its not just Marra and the last 2 picks of the draft. I honestly think the other FS and NGA boys will be similar to Buku and just sort of slide through

Id be happy to take marra with all our points raak takes whatever points are left and then upgrade a rookie and take McPherson as a rookie

 

[flipper83]

Yeah I'd be keen on that as we (understandably) seem committed to Marra. Just take whoever offers the most points.

Did I hear it mentioned we have more strong FS/Academy coming though in 2021 too or did I imagine that?

Hobbs, Rentsch and Molan all played in our NGA teams although it's now apparent that it didn't necessarily mean they are eligible to be selected as NGA academy players. Rentsch is apparently ineligible but no idea on the other two. Both very good players though so hopefully they are tied to us. The West twins and Darcy's oldest are also in the 2021 draft.

 

[Mofra]

Overall very happy with our trade period and trusting the Power team to get the drafting right.

One area that always bothers me is the Dogs always seem to miss the boat with trading with “ the dopey club” A few years back it was Freo that always seemed to overpay in trades or make overly generous trades for reasons only fathomable to themselves. Now it’s GWS. But we never seem involved in the deals. Are we too nice?

Tom Boyd, Sam Darley.

Given how we've drafted the past few years I've glad we haven't gone all "drunk uncle" at the trade table.
We picked up the 4th highest contested marking player in the entire comp for a second rounder and a genuine intercept marking KPD with multiple BOGs last year for the equivalent of a late future second rounder. And kept our first round pick. I like that.

 

[Mr. Walker]

Tom Boyd, Sam Darley.

Given how we've drafted the past few years I've glad we haven't gone all "drunk uncle" at the trade table.
We picked up the 4th highest contested marking player in the entire comp for a second rounder and a genuine intercept marking KPD with multiple BOGs last year for the equivalent of a late future second rounder. And kept our first round pick. I like that.

Sam Darley. Really ?????

However the mistake was mine. I meant to type GCS not GWS. I Should always check my work.
I think my point about us not getting involved in trades with clubs when they seemingly keen to be on the losing side still stands.

 

[Mofra]

Sam Darley. Really ?????

However the mistake was mine. I meant to type GCS not GWS. I Should always check my work.
I think my point about us not getting involved in trades with clubs when they seemingly keen to be on the losing side still stands.

Which trades would you have considered? We had one ITK here stating we were working with GCS on a pick swap but a deal fell through.

 

[Virgin Dog]

Laitham Vandermeer has re-signed for another year, takes him to the end of 2021. Hasn't debuted yet, but the club must be confident he will produce something

 

[Sentinel]

Laitham Vandermeer has re-signed for another year, takes him to the end of 2021. Hasn't debuted yet, but the club must be confident he will produce something

Whilst he does appear to be a good prospect, its worth mentioning that besides Nathan Mullenger-McHugh, since 2011 every single draftee (excluding mature age recruits) that we've put onto the list through the main or rookie drafts has been given more than 2 years at the club.

The last player besides NMM to be cut at the conclusion of their first contract was Tom Hill, drafted 2010.

 

[Virgin Dog]

Whilst he does appear to be a good prospect, its worth mentioning that besides Nathan Mullenger-McHugh, since 2011 every single draftee (excluding mature age recruits) that we've put onto the list through the main or rookie drafts has been given more than 2 years at the club.

The last player besides NMM to be cut at the conclusion of their first contract was Tom Hill, drafted 2010.

That's fair, but there have been cases like Cal Porter where it seems likely he was given the extra year simply because we didn't want to have to replace him through the draft this year, and instead are giving the chance to either have him prove himself, or have the extra list spot next year so we have more picks to match bids with.

But you could also be right, in that it doesn't prove anything

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Whilst he does appear to be a good prospect, its worth mentioning that besides Nathan Mullenger-McHugh, since 2011 every single draftee (excluding mature age recruits) that we've put onto the list through the main or rookie drafts has been given more than 2 years at the club.

The last player besides NMM to be cut at the conclusion of their first contract was Tom Hill, drafted 2010.

I thought the same thing. Mustn’t be overly confident if he’s only been given the 1yr.
Latham was a bit of a hit and hope selection imo. A lesser version of Richards. He could still make it but I think the 1yr reflects where he actually sits in the 44 and how much of his game needs to improve to make it.

 

[TBOW]

Whilst he does appear to be a good prospect, its worth mentioning that besides Nathan Mullenger-McHugh, since 2011 every single draftee (excluding mature age recruits) that we've put onto the list through the main or rookie drafts has been given more than 2 years at the club.

The last player besides NMM to be cut at the conclusion of their first contract was Tom Hill, drafted 2010.

Wasn't there a ruckman from Altona or somewhere who didn't last a year? Goetz?