Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 3 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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Charlie Bucket

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I’d love us to give Bennell a chance. I doubt it happens but if we could get Bennell playing good footy the benefits are many. Obviously him contributing to our team, what it says to other indigenous players about our club and even if he moves on for a bigger contract after getting himself right, we turn a free list spot into some trade currency.

Obviously there are risks involved. Him going off rails and the negative PR that comes with that, though given the expectations on him it shouldn’t be that bad. His body lets him down another year - we basically carried Morris, Boyd and Picken on our list all year without getting a game out of them and still made finals so that’s not a huge issue. Biggest issue would be Harley going off the rails and taking others with him.

Given the risks vs reward, I think it’s a risk I’d be happy with the club taking.

I’m all aboard the Bennell train. Unlikely to happen but would be stoked if we took a chance on him. Have heard he’s doing pretty
well in his private life and ready to have another crack at making it work.
 
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Reckon our cap should be in the sweet spot after the trade period. Various reports, ITK posters here indicated cap space pre-trade was $1.7-2 mill.

Bruce and Keath combined are reportedly on around $1.2mill.

Cap space should therefore now be conservatively around $500k?

Gives us some nice wriggle room for contract extensions, particularly given most (all?) of next years additions will in all likelihood be draftees.

Cap room will be useful - we need to re-sign Smith and Schache next year.
 
When you see this list of trades (bottom of page) it's no wonder the process takes so much time. The clubs, list managers and player managers are under the pump, while BF throws around hypotheticals as if it's all just so easy, if only they'd listen to us!

 

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When you see this list of trades (bottom of page) it's no wonder the process takes so much time. The clubs, list managers and player managers are under the pump, while BF throws around hypotheticals as if it's all just so easy, if only they'd listen to us!


The HS paywall is harder to get around than most - do you mind posting it up?
 
FREE AGENCY
Brandon Ellis signs for Gold Coast as a restricted free agent
Brisbane signs Cam Ellis-Yolmen as an unrestricted free agent
Melbourne signs Adam Tomlinson as an unrestricted free agent
Brisbane Lions sign Grant Birchall as an unrestricted free agent
TRADES
1. West Coast receives Tim Kelly, a future third-round selection and pick 52
Geelong receives pick 14, pick 24, a future first-round pick and pick 37
Essendon receives pick 33 and pick 57

2. GWS receives pick 6 and 59
St Kilda receives pick 12 and 18

3. Hawthorn receives Sam Frost, pick 42, pick 61 and a future fourth-round pick
Melbourne receives pick 50 and a future second-round selection

4. Melbourne receives Ed Langdon, pick 26 and a future fourth-round selection
Fremantle receives pick 22, pick 79 and a future second-round pick

5. West Coast receives pick 46 and pick 91
Brisbane Lions receive pick 52 and pick 64
6. Carlton receives Eddie Betts
Adelaide receives a future fourth-round selection

7. Hawthorn receives Jon Patton
GWS receives a future fourth-round pick (tied to Melbourne)

8. Melbourne receives pick 8
North Melbourne receives pick 26, 50 and a future first-round selection

9. GWS receives Sam Jacobs
Adelaide receives a future fourth-round selection (tied to Melbourne)
10. Adelaide receives Billy Frampton
Port Adelaide receives a future fourth-round selection (tied to Melbourne)
11. St Kilda receives Dougal Howard, Paddy Ryder, pick 10 and a future fourth-round selection
Port Adelaide receives picks 12 and 18

12. Gold Coast receives Hugh Greenwood
Adelaide receives a future third-round selection and future fourth-round selection
13. Collingwood receives Darcy Cameron and pick 62
Sydney receives pick 56
14. Sydney receives pick 48
Carlton receives pick 54 and 63
15. Gold Coast receives Zac Smith
Geelong receives pick 58
16. Sydney receives Lewis Taylor
Brisbane Lions receive pick 48
17. St Kilda receives pick 58
Geelong receives Jack Steven

18. Brisbane Lions receive Callum Ah Chee
Gold Coast receives a future second-round selection and future fourth-round selection
19. St Kilda receives Brad Hill and a future third-round pick
Fremantle receives Blake Acres, pick 10, pick 58, a future second-round pick and future fourth-round pick

20. Carlton receives Marc Pittonet and pick 61
Hawthorn receives pick 54 and pick 63
21. Essendon receives Andrew Phillips, pick 61 and pick 72
Carlton receives pick 57 and pick 70
22. Western Bulldogs receive Josh Bruce
St Kilda receives picks 32 and 51
23. Western Bulldogs receive Alex Keath
Adelaide receives pick 45 and a future second-round pick
24. Essendon receives Tom Cutler and pick 64
Brisbane Lions receive pick 72 and a future third-round pick
25. St Kilda receives Zak Jones, pick 56 and a future fourth-round pick
Sydney receives pick 32, pick 76 and a future third-round pick
26. St Kilda receives Dan Butler
Richmond receives pick 56
27. Geelong receives Josh Jenkins and a future third-round pick
Adelaide receives pick 37
28. North Melbourne receives Aiden Bonar and a future fourth-round pick
GWS receives a future third-round pick
29. Fremantle receives James Aish, pick 69 and a future third-round pick
Collingwood receives a future second-round pick and a future fourth-round pick
 

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Had heard on the radio that Bennell was looking to train with a club in Victoria. I wonder if he has got rid of his off-field issues? Injuries aside, his body of work when uninjured was pretty good.
Sam Power said yesterday that we weren't one of the clubs that had showed any interest.
 

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ErnieSigley

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Had heard on the radio that Bennell was looking to train with a club in Victoria. I wonder if he has got rid of his off-field issues? Injuries aside, his body of work when uninjured was pretty good.
We aren't interested.
Power said we weren't one of the 6 clubs he had spoken to. After this years trade season, I'd take that as the truth.
 

Bemoreboyddog

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I’m interested in what you think it “says to other indigenous players”?
I think if the results are positive it speaks volumes about the club. He’s been looked after, fitted in, and resurrected a career. If they can do that for Harley, imagine what they can do for me?

Edit: By the sounds it’s a moot point as we aren’t interested. Would like to hear why though.
 

bobs head soup

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Sam Power said yesterday that we weren't one of the clubs that had showed any interest.
That's fair enough. I was a massive Bennell fan early on, thought he was just about the most exciting young player in the game, but the odds of him doing anything at all after all his issues and the footy he's missed are very remote.
 

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FREE AGENCY
Brandon Ellis signs for Gold Coast as a restricted free agent
Brisbane signs Cam Ellis-Yolmen as an unrestricted free agent
Melbourne signs Adam Tomlinson as an unrestricted free agent
Brisbane Lions sign Grant Birchall as an unrestricted free agent
TRADES
1. West Coast receives Tim Kelly, a future third-round selection and pick 52
Geelong receives pick 14, pick 24, a future first-round pick and pick 37
Essendon receives pick 33 and pick 57

2. GWS receives pick 6 and 59
St Kilda receives pick 12 and 18

3. Hawthorn receives Sam Frost, pick 42, pick 61 and a future fourth-round pick
Melbourne receives pick 50 and a future second-round selection

4. Melbourne receives Ed Langdon, pick 26 and a future fourth-round selection
Fremantle receives pick 22, pick 79 and a future second-round pick

5. West Coast receives pick 46 and pick 91
Brisbane Lions receive pick 52 and pick 64
6. Carlton receives Eddie Betts
Adelaide receives a future fourth-round selection

7. Hawthorn receives Jon Patton
GWS receives a future fourth-round pick (tied to Melbourne)

8. Melbourne receives pick 8
North Melbourne receives pick 26, 50 and a future first-round selection

9. GWS receives Sam Jacobs
Adelaide receives a future fourth-round selection (tied to Melbourne)
10. Adelaide receives Billy Frampton
Port Adelaide receives a future fourth-round selection (tied to Melbourne)
11. St Kilda receives Dougal Howard, Paddy Ryder, pick 10 and a future fourth-round selection
Port Adelaide receives picks 12 and 18

12. Gold Coast receives Hugh Greenwood
Adelaide receives a future third-round selection and future fourth-round selection
13. Collingwood receives Darcy Cameron and pick 62
Sydney receives pick 56
14. Sydney receives pick 48
Carlton receives pick 54 and 63
15. Gold Coast receives Zac Smith
Geelong receives pick 58
16. Sydney receives Lewis Taylor
Brisbane Lions receive pick 48
17. St Kilda receives pick 58
Geelong receives Jack Steven

18. Brisbane Lions receive Callum Ah Chee
Gold Coast receives a future second-round selection and future fourth-round selection
19. St Kilda receives Brad Hill and a future third-round pick
Fremantle receives Blake Acres, pick 10, pick 58, a future second-round pick and future fourth-round pick

20. Carlton receives Marc Pittonet and pick 61
Hawthorn receives pick 54 and pick 63
21. Essendon receives Andrew Phillips, pick 61 and pick 72
Carlton receives pick 57 and pick 70
22. Western Bulldogs receive Josh Bruce
St Kilda receives picks 32 and 51
23. Western Bulldogs receive Alex Keath
Adelaide receives pick 45 and a future second-round pick
24. Essendon receives Tom Cutler and pick 64
Brisbane Lions receive pick 72 and a future third-round pick
25. St Kilda receives Zak Jones, pick 56 and a future fourth-round pick
Sydney receives pick 32, pick 76 and a future third-round pick
26. St Kilda receives Dan Butler
Richmond receives pick 56
27. Geelong receives Josh Jenkins and a future third-round pick
Adelaide receives pick 37
28. North Melbourne receives Aiden Bonar and a future fourth-round pick
GWS receives a future third-round pick
29. Fremantle receives James Aish, pick 69 and a future third-round pick
Collingwood receives a future second-round pick and a future fourth-round pick
Needs a time line for dramatic effect, plus we may have got a third future with Keath.
 
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Hoping we're gearing up to go all in on de Goey. The longer the season goes without him signing next year the more body parts I am willing to sell to get him to the club.

Why would we need De Goey when we already have Fergus Greene who plays the same role for a fraction of the cost?
 

jacob17

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Ben Keays delisted my the lions.
I remember him being talked up in his draft year, anyone got any thoughts on him?
 
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