Triple Baileys
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So true, my friend, so true. It's THE difference between GWS and GCS. GCS must be so bitter. What did they do wrong? Potential TV audience reach not as big?
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One thing that worked strongly in GWS’ favour was coming in a year after GCS. They had the benefit of seeing how the entry concessions worked (without knowing at that stage whether GC would be successful) and so it seems they sat down and worked out a slightly more sophisticated strategy.So true, my friend, so true. It's THE difference between GWS and GCS. GCS must be so bitter. What did they do wrong? Potential TV audience reach not as big?
One thing that worked strongly in GWS’ favour was coming in a year after GCS. They had the benefit of seeing how the entry concessions worked (without knowing at that stage whether GC would be successful) and so it seems they sat down and worked out a slightly more sophisticated strategy.
Not saying they developed it all on the spot - it has probably evolved and been refined over the years - but it seems their intent was less of a once-off shopping splurge than that of GCS. One obvious benefit of trying to spread their high level picks over many years is that you don’t waste valuable picks on non-elite players, once the top half dozen or so have gone.
Much as I dislike the club I admire their tactical approach to list building. It’s just a shame from their perspective that they’ve wasted a lot of carefully cultivated picks on dud players.
It’d be interesting to read a summary from an insider on the whole process, and to compare it to the way GCS went about the building of their own foundation playing list. I’d like to know whether all their moves have been deliberately crafted - or have some just been made up as they go along?
Can’t wait til they start to struggle, they will be in dire peril after 3 bad years. No one will care
Yes as it turned out they’ve had a salary cap squeeze anyway, but have so far turned it to advantage by unloading some quite good players in exchange for further high draft currency (Smith, Shiel, Patton, Scully, etc etc).With the amount of picks they have had their dud picks have become irrelevant because if they had hit on every pick they would have lost players due to salary cap restraint.
The way they used their concessions picks basically guaranteed them success even with SOS at the helm. They only had to hit 1 in 4-5 to build an elite core as they have.
Can’t wait til they start to struggle, they will be in dire peril after 3 bad years. No one will care
Gill will care and maybe their three fansMaybe no-one will notice.
One thing that worked strongly in GWS’ favour was coming in a year after GCS. They had the benefit of seeing how the entry concessions worked (without knowing at that stage whether GC would be successful) and so it seems they sat down and worked out a slightly more sophisticated strategy.
Not saying they developed it all on the spot - it has probably evolved and been refined over the years - but it seems their intent was less of a once-off shopping splurge than that of GCS. One obvious benefit of trying to spread their high level picks over many years is that you don’t waste valuable picks on non-elite players, once the top half dozen or so have gone.
Much as I dislike the club I admire their tactical approach to list building. It’s just a shame from their perspective that they’ve wasted a lot of carefully cultivated picks on dud players.
It’d be interesting to read a summary from an insider on the whole process, and to compare it to the way GCS went about the building of their own foundation playing list. I’d like to know whether all their moves have been deliberately crafted - or have some just been made up as they go along?
2010 was one of the worst draft years in memory.Suns had the misfortune of a s**t draft year. Fantastic luck for us to have Wallis and Libba that year,.
To be fair, a lot of the blokes that went to GC suns could have turned out to be very good footballers in the right environment. The place was a shambles for years in terms of facilities and development. Would drastically improve a few draft metrics if that was taken into account imo.2010 was one of the worst draft years in memory.
The bigger kicker for us was grabbing Dahlhaus and JJ as rookies when most teams struggled to find one AFL standard footballer among their crop.
And with JMac in charge of list management now there is a good chance they will have even more misses in the future.
And back it up with contracting duds to long term contracts and opening the door for good players to leave by not signing keepers up soon enough...
One thing that worked strongly in GWS’ favour was coming in a year after GCS. They had the benefit of seeing how the entry concessions worked (without knowing at that stage whether GC would be successful) and so it seems they sat down and worked out a slightly more sophisticated strategy.
Not saying they developed it all on the spot - it has probably evolved and been refined over the years - but it seems their intent was less of a once-off shopping splurge than that of GCS. One obvious benefit of trying to spread their high level picks over many years is that you don’t waste valuable picks on non-elite players, once the top half dozen or so have gone.
Much as I dislike the club I admire their tactical approach to list building. It’s just a shame from their perspective that they’ve wasted a lot of carefully cultivated picks on dud players.
It’d be interesting to read a summary from an insider on the whole process, and to compare it to the way GCS went about the building of their own foundation playing list. I’d like to know whether all their moves have been deliberately crafted - or have some just been made up as they go along?
According to Fox Footy, we can't trade our 2020 pick since we don't have a 2020 second round Pick
How’s this for a 2021 forward line
FF Lloyd Bruce Weightman
HF Dale/Lipinski Naughton Jamarra
Lipinski as a mid forward rated elite for score assists and score involvements
Dale gives us that mobile medium forward option
Lloyd was our leading goal scorer this year
Bruce is Bruce
Naughton by this stage will have had a couple of pre seasons training as a forward...
Weightman is seen as the best small forward in this draft
Jamarra.. need we say more
Bruce may still have 5 years in him you never know. Could play till his 31 could do a couple more or may even last as long as Morris, as you say alot of water to go under the bridgeA lot of water to go under the bridge yet.. Doubt we get Weightman, I think he will go before our pick. Bruce is also 27, so by the time Jamarra is playing good football Bruce will be retired. Naughton and Jamarra is exciting though.
Bruce may still have 5 years in him you never know. Could play till his 31 could do a couple more or may even last as long as Morris, as you say alot of water to go under the bridge
I can't see why Mara couldn't play in his first season. everyone is talking like his going to be a long way off but his already competing well against kids who will be playing afl this season. I think 5-10 games in 2021 is possible.Jamara will probably take 5 years, his what 17 now? in 5 years he will be 22. So even if Bruce lasts 5 years, Jamara will only start peaking. Agree though - anything could happen.
Random bored post, I'll just drop here a YouTube I came across
Agreed. If King and Naughton can do it, why cant he? He ticks the profile of being athletic, being able to mark the ball, and is projected top 10 player. Not to put pressure on him, but I still feel its silly to assume he is some kind of late pick/long term project. With Bruce and Naughton commanding the best two defenders. There is no reason Jamarra cannot thrive from day 1. Yes he wont peak for years. Even Naughton isn't there yet. But he still found a way to impact early on.I can't see why Mara couldn't play in his first season. everyone is talking like his going to be a long way off but his already competing well against kids who will be playing afl this season. I think 5-10 games in 2021 is possible.
That was just beautiful I will sleep well now